Carnage Discussion 1.2

[Baalis]

(05-15-2012 06:36 PM)Hibbo Wrote:  I posted it earlier on this Forum, I think till Bioware will fix stacking armor reduction debuffs, a spec like Carnage with a talent that gives you x seconds with 100% armor pen will not be in line with the other specs or classes.

With enough Bounty Hunter, Sniper and Juggernaut`s in your raid every damage dealer has a "Gore" Buff the hole fight.

I hope Bioware will adress this with Patch 1.3 because they already promised to fix this with 1.2.

Can you elaborate on the armor pen bug? I was not aware but it sounds like other classes are wrongly seeing an armor pen bonus.

EDIT: Nevermind i found your post. It does explain why an undergeared watchmen can perform equivalent DPS when i use one of the established priority systems for combat.

[Baalis]

(05-15-2012 06:36 PM)Hibbo Wrote:  I posted it earlier on this Forum, I think till Bioware will fix stacking armor reduction debuffs, a spec like Carnage with a talent that gives you x seconds with 100% armor pen will not be in line with the other specs or classes.

With enough Bounty Hunter, Sniper and Juggernaut`s in your raid every damage dealer has a "Gore" Buff the hole fight.

I hope Bioware will adress this with Patch 1.3 because they already promised to fix this with 1.2.

Can you elaborate on the armor pen bug? I was not aware but it sounds like other classes are wrongly seeing an armor pen bonus.

[Hibbo]

There is no Armor Pen Bug!

It`s a bug that "Armor Reduction" Debuffs stack additive till 100% = 0 Boss Armor.
Bring 5 Bounty Hunter to your Raid and the Boss has 0 Armor.

Bioware stated that they want fix this for Patch 1.2 but nothing happened.

In my opinion Gore is useless when a Boss already has 0 Armor.
Why should i penetrate something when there is nothing i can penetrate .....


http://mmo-mechanics.com/swtor/forums/Th...7#pid20487

[Baalis]

So with the implementation of 1.2 is accuracy any good for combat/carnage? Reading the guide from the following website indicates accuracy is or best secondary stat. I have always thought it was power. Does anyone have numbers to support either claim?

Site: http://www.noxxic.com/swtor/pve/jedi-kni...nd-details

[Ezmode]

Accuracy until 110% is more important than Power. If you are already at that level, aim for Crit/Surge until the DR is too expensive and then stack Power.

[Baalis]

(05-28-2012 02:02 PM)Ezmode Wrote:  Accuracy until 110% is more important than Power. If you are already at that level, aim for Crit/Surge until the DR is too expensive and then stack Power.

I assume this is because they made Blade Rush weapon damage (I forget the term) and not force damage. Do you have any numbers for comparison? Thanks for the heads up.

[Ezmode]

I'm sorry, I don't have any numbers for comparison at the moment. I believe if you look in one of the Game Mechanic threads, you SHOULD be able to find the info in there.

[Baalis]

Looking at the notes from PTS 1.3 for combat/carnage they made a big change to precision slash/gore.

" Precision Slash: This ability now costs 1 Focus and is no longer limited by the global cooldown. Its damage has been reduced, and the duration of its armor penetration debuff has been reduced by 1.5 seconds to ensure the effective duration is the same."

Source: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=463539

Two questions: How was gore/precision slash affected by GCD before? I thought it had its own cooldown. How does reducing the buff by 1.5s keep the effective duration the same?

To me this seems like a DPS loss.

[BogyOne]

(06-07-2012 02:11 AM)Baalis Wrote:  Two questions: How was gore/precision slash affected by GCD before? I thought it had its own cooldown. How does reducing the buff by 1.5s keep the effective duration the same?

Because pre 1.3 you can use it for 3 next GCDs after applying, i.e. for 4.5 sec, correct?

[Lupo]

Does anyone happen to know of a good site that actually keeps reasonably accurate updates for Combat/Carnage spec?