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[therealrev]

(04-24-2012 05:47 AM)defendi Wrote:  What kind of DPS are you all getting vs the combat dummies? I'd like to benchmark myself. We did the council fight on EV Sunday and I only finished with 1.4 seconds to spare.

Bob

I'm getting 1500-1600 on the ops dummy. Raid buffed, no stims or adrenals or activated relics. I have several pieces of augmented gear though.

Have you guys been prioritizing power still, or strength? Also, I've been noticing 8-10% evade on EC HM parses even though my accuracy is at ~98.3%. Haven't noticed anything much different evade wise on our other sentinel who has 102% accuracy.

Not exactly sure what I should prioritize at this point as I'm now swapping mods in/out of gear to optimize. Here are my stats (fixed and accurate), do any of you have any feedback on stat priorities or improvements?

Str: 1704 (raid buffed)
Power: 561
Damage: 799-952
Secondary Damage: 202-303
Bonus Damage: 493.4
Accuracy: 98.18%
Crit (w/buff): 30.3%
Surge: ~76.53%

I was using 3 +str 2 +pwr augments, switched to 4 +pwr and one +acc, haven't noticed too much of a difference in DPS. Any thoughts?

[defendi]

I'm getting 961 on the ops dummy, but your stats are significantly better than mine. Your damage, for instance, is about 25% better than mine Your crit is about twice as good. I'm guessing a lot of the difference comes in there. Thanks for posting that. It gives me a benchmark.

Bob

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Another question, I got my first Columni piece and it looks awful. So I was looking at its stats and realized that the set bonus gives one less focus on dispatch and 15 seconds off the cool down on Valorous . . . (I can't remember the name, the ability that stacks 30 centering at once). If I got a full set of orange with augment slots, I could move the components and get 6 augments to boot. That's looking better to me than that set bonus. What's the opinion here?

Thanks in advance.

Bob

[Qed]

The 2 piece bonus is probably worth it, given that you need access to War Hero or Campaign gear to get augmented boots and hands (Or rather, by the time you have access to augments in these slots, you probably have access to the armorings-with-set-bonuses anyway). The 4 piece bonus is probably not.

[therealrev]

Set bonus is not worth it, for two or four piece. I have 5 augmented pieces of gear, and would go all augmented if I could. The consistent DPS from the augments is much better than the 1 focus or 15sec cooldown reduction especially in end game ops. PVP, the dispatch might be worth it.

[Izzo]

(04-25-2012 07:38 AM)therealrev Wrote:  Have you guys been prioritizing power still, or strength? Also, I've been noticing 8-10% evade on EC HM parses even though my accuracy is at ~98.3%. Haven't noticed anything much different evade wise on our other sentinel who has 102% accuracy.

Look closer at your logs, I believe this might be your offhand missing on two saber attacks like annihilate, vicious slash, etc. For me i get a lot of off-hand misses, but my main hand attacks never miss. Ive only actually checked this on a dummy though, but I would assume they tuned the operations training dummy to be like an operations boss.


Edit: As a frame of reference, I have just over 10% accuracy (100% melee 110% special).

[Superbeast]

(04-25-2012 01:56 PM)Izzo Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 07:38 AM)therealrev Wrote:  Have you guys been prioritizing power still, or strength? Also, I've been noticing 8-10% evade on EC HM parses even though my accuracy is at ~98.3%. Haven't noticed anything much different evade wise on our other sentinel who has 102% accuracy.

Look closer at your logs, I believe this might be your offhand missing on two saber attacks like annihilate, vicious slash, etc. For me i get a lot of off-hand misses, but my main hand attacks never miss. Ive only actually checked this on a dummy though, but I would assume they tuned the operations training dummy to be like an operations boss.


Edit: As a frame of reference, I have just over 10% accuracy (100% melee 110% special).

Im at 100,5% Melee-Accuracy myself right now.

Ive gone through my logs from denova, ev, kp hardmodes and nightmare. and the misses dont bug since they are all offhand related. BUT i constantly see 3-3.5% Dodges from bosses and when i inspected the logs closer it even included specials (ravage, battering assault and rupture).

[therealrev]

(04-25-2012 02:19 PM)Superbeast Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 01:56 PM)Izzo Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 07:38 AM)therealrev Wrote:  Have you guys been prioritizing power still, or strength? Also, I've been noticing 8-10% evade on EC HM parses even though my accuracy is at ~98.3%. Haven't noticed anything much different evade wise on our other sentinel who has 102% accuracy.

Look closer at your logs, I believe this might be your offhand missing on two saber attacks like annihilate, vicious slash, etc. For me i get a lot of off-hand misses, but my main hand attacks never miss. Ive only actually checked this on a dummy though, but I would assume they tuned the operations training dummy to be like an operations boss.


Edit: As a frame of reference, I have just over 10% accuracy (100% melee 110% special).

Im at 100,5% Melee-Accuracy myself right now.

Ive gone through my logs from denova, ev, kp hardmodes and nightmare. and the misses dont bug since they are all offhand related. BUT i constantly see 3-3.5% Dodges from bosses and when i inspected the logs closer it even included specials (ravage, battering assault and rupture).

Yeah it is not just the offhand. It is due primarily to the offhand, but special attacks miss as well. I don't think there's any reason to go over 98% accuracy contrary to what others are saying.

[Izzo]

(04-25-2012 02:32 PM)therealrev Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 02:19 PM)Superbeast Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 01:56 PM)Izzo Wrote:  

(04-25-2012 07:38 AM)therealrev Wrote:  Have you guys been prioritizing power still, or strength? Also, I've been noticing 8-10% evade on EC HM parses even though my accuracy is at ~98.3%. Haven't noticed anything much different evade wise on our other sentinel who has 102% accuracy.

Look closer at your logs, I believe this might be your offhand missing on two saber attacks like annihilate, vicious slash, etc. For me i get a lot of off-hand misses, but my main hand attacks never miss. Ive only actually checked this on a dummy though, but I would assume they tuned the operations training dummy to be like an operations boss.


Edit: As a frame of reference, I have just over 10% accuracy (100% melee 110% special).

Im at 100,5% Melee-Accuracy myself right now.

Ive gone through my logs from denova, ev, kp hardmodes and nightmare. and the misses dont bug since they are all offhand related. BUT i constantly see 3-3.5% Dodges from bosses and when i inspected the logs closer it even included specials (ravage, battering assault and rupture).

Yeah it is not just the offhand. It is due primarily to the offhand, but special attacks miss as well. I don't think there's any reason to go over 98% accuracy contrary to what others are saying.

Well just because its a special attack doesn't mean its still not the offhand that is missing, but like I said I've only tried it on a dummy. Ill log a few fights in EC later in the week and see if i get similar results.


On a kinda unrelated note, what crit% are you guys shooting for now? I seem to be losing a lot of crit for power/surge in the newer gear, which seems better, but with some of the DR changes, at what point would it not be worth it to sacrifice crit rating for power?

[AssimilateThis]

This may be an odd question, but as I start to begin farming WH, any thoughts on optimal order of which pieces to get first? I believe one of the accessories is a power/surge piece which seems BIS to me at the moment. Any thoughts?

+69 Power
+76 Strength
+76 Endurance
+88 Expertise Rating
+53 Surge Rating

Many thanks in advance

[Superbeast]

Quote:Well just because its a special attack doesn't mean its still not the offhand that is missing, but like I said I've only tried it on a dummy. Ill log a few fights in EC later in the week and see if i get similar results.


On a kinda unrelated note, what crit% are you guys shooting for now? I seem to be losing a lot of crit for power/surge in the newer gear, which seems better, but with some of the DR changes, at what point would it not be worth it to sacrifice crit rating for power?

I would drop crit rating for power anytime. i got 22% Crit and my bleeds still crit 55%-60%. The passive crit on bleeds and berzerk/zen makes up for crit on gear - at least in my opinion.