Juggernaut | Guardian DPS Discussion

[Alvis]

(04-17-2012 01:50 AM)Vintego Wrote:  

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Quote:Agreed, this is my PvE spec : http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#101MMZcGMRMuddukZrM.1

Just one point in sundering throw because you actually don't need the second one. Everything else seems what you would expect.

I won't look for a full vengeance PvP spec though since full vengeance has never been good for PvP.
I
can't wait for 1.3 and the dual spec. The guardian is one of the only
AC for which we can't get a spec that is good for both PvE and PvP.

Just a quick thought on this build. I really am up in the air about Ravage. It's been nicely buffed but unlike Marauders, we have no way of making sure the 'target' simply doesn't walk away from it.

That is unless you spec.... Immortal. In immortal I have 2 ways of making sure Ravage has a much, much higher chance of completing.

But, if you use the build you listed above, I strongly recommend dropping the point in Sundering Throw and moving it to Deafening Defense. You are losing 2% resist across the board, and a staggering 7.5% resist while using Enraged Defense.

If you love that point in Sundering Throw, keep it, but I strongly recommend you find a way to get a second (very valuable) point in Deafening Defense.

I am finding in 1.2 my Jugg melts very quickly even with good gear. It's at a point where I'm constantly spamming Enraged Defense. I can only imagine the amount of damage per Warzone that the single extra point in Deafening Defense soaks up.... but your mileage my vary. Just wanted you to consider that option.

Please read my post before commenting it.

This spec is a PvE spec. I also wrote that I would not go into PvP with a full vengeance spec and that I don't know about a single spec for guardians that is good for both PvP and PvE (actually you might work something with full immortality).
So, tell me why are you making comments about its viability for PvP? It is not and is not meant to be for a ton of reasons. Firstly, it does not have all the good PvP talents in vengeance (pooled hatred and unyielding) than vengeance lacks both control and burst which are the most important thing to have in PvP.

That said, I really don't know what is better for PvE ... pooled hatred or unstoppable.