Marksmanship Sniper/Sharpshooter Gunslinger Compendium

[tdr]

(04-18-2012 01:54 AM)Korghal Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 10:25 PM)Tibbel Wrote:  I'd like to make a request: if you post a log or parse, please also include your stats (weapon damage range, ranged/tech bonus damage, tanged/tech crit chance, surge, accuracy percent) so there is some context to the numbers.

950 DPS in full Campaign gear is a little different than 950 in fresh level 50 blues.

Thanks!

Just did 10 sessions, 5 minutes each. Got an average DPS of 1246.6 on the Operation Target Dummy.

Spec - http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#400rcrbbRsRGoZbcZG.1

Clean rotation - SoS > Ambush > Followthrough > Snipe > Rifle Shot
With TA, LT and Shatter Shot up as much as possible.

weap dam - 413-505
Bonus damage - 464.8
Accuracy - 100.67%
Ranged Crit Chance - 39.21%
Tech Crit Chance - 38.09%
Crit Multi - 71.11%


Any tips?

Can you post your log to torparse or fryingtime?
Also, it would be super helpful for people to post equipment at askmrrobot.
My stats are a pretty close match to yours (http://goo.gl/m4xyb - plus a rakata skill stim), and I don't understand how you're pulling 110 more dps with rifleshot as a filler. I'd love to see the details of your rotation.

-t

[Zeece]

So Question from the math masses

with the new Relics which is better to use in Ops?

the On Use 405 power

or the

30% chance for 184 damage every 4.5 seconds?


Right now I'm using the PvP on use +365 Power and the Datacron +72 cunning ones


My personal preference is control.. so I can blow cooldowns for max damage at key points in fights.. (SOA's shield drop)

[Antiriot]

(04-17-2012 04:01 PM)Antiriot Wrote:  I didn't see a parse thread. This is from tonight's 16 man HM Denova run. I've merged all of the Toff/Zorn engagements and didn't include trash for simplicity's sake.

Gear is full Rakata with some shit jewlery. Keep in mind this is a named fight that doesnt include sitting safe behind a rock staring at your hotbars.

452.5 BD
104 ACC
38 Crit
61 CM

[visceration]

(04-18-2012 01:54 AM)Korghal Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 10:25 PM)Tibbel Wrote:  I'd like to make a request: if you post a log or parse, please also include your stats (weapon damage range, ranged/tech bonus damage, tanged/tech crit chance, surge, accuracy percent) so there is some context to the numbers.

950 DPS in full Campaign gear is a little different than 950 in fresh level 50 blues.

Thanks!

Just did 10 sessions, 5 minutes each. Got an average DPS of 1246.6 on the Operation Target Dummy.

Spec - http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#400rcrbbRsRGoZbcZG.1

Clean rotation - SoS > Ambush > Followthrough > Snipe > Rifle Shot
With TA, LT and Shatter Shot up as much as possible.

weap dam - 413-505
Bonus damage - 464.8
Accuracy - 100.67%
Ranged Crit Chance - 39.21%
Tech Crit Chance - 38.09%
Crit Multi - 71.11%


Any tips?

Question: Is that your accuracy for special abilities? If it is then you may need more hit to get to to 110% bc of operations defense.

Also, you need to drop deadly directive for 2 points in explosive engineering bc it increases damage done by your orbital strike too. Alacrity is the least sought after stat and makes the deadly directive useless to us.

[Quorra]

Here's a parse of my 8-man nightmare mode Karagga's Palace from tonight:

http://www.torparse.com/a/5068


Bonethrasher: 1209 DPS*
Jarg & Sorno: 1312 DPS
Foreman Crusher: 1288 DPS
G4-B3 Heavy Fabricator: 1629 DPS**
Karagga the Unyielding: 1437 DPS

* we actually 7-manned this fight while waiting for our second tank to show up!
** obviously G4-B3 Heavy Fabricator has inflated numbers due to the encounter mechanics.

My gear and spec (2/8/31) can be seen here:

http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/2a...7f430a1adf


I had full buffs and used an Exotech Skill Stim, and on occasion I used Exotech Attack Adrenals.

I am very new to using Lethality, I have actually been MM/Eng for about 3 months. I wanted to post this to add to the overall data being collected, but I also would appreciate any tips you guys may offer me based on what you see with my ability usage, spec, and/or gear.

[Talshai]

Hi folks,



I'm playing a Marksman Sniper for a couple of weeks now. I didn't worry much about my dps (pre 1.2) since there wasn't any real damage meter around. All of that changed last thursday. We went to Denova as soon as the servers came back on and we killed all the bosses on story-mode. I uploaded the log file from the various encounters to a couple of online combatlog parsers and got shocked. My dps was arround 900. So I rechecked this thread.



I used the Pure MM: 31/7/3 and the MM/Eng Hybrid: 23/16/2 spec from the Compendium on a Ops Boss Target Dummy and tried a few rotations on it. Basicly I used the Sustained Damage Rotation and filled the blanks with best DPE Ranking Attacks from the Compendium list (and of course kept the Shatter Shot debuff up):



Pure MM: SoS – Ambush – FT – Corrosive Dart – Explosive Probe – Snipe – FT – Rifle Shot – Overload Shot – Snipe – FT

MM/Eng Hybrid: SoS – Ambush – FT – Explosive Probe – Interrogation Probe – Snipe – FT – Rifle Shot – Corrosive Dart – Snipe – FT



I uploaded the combatlog to various web parsers again and on top of that, I installed the MOX Desktop Raid Meters. The results of the damage meter addon varies a little bit from the online parsers since its realtime. But its basicly the same. My dps on the target dummy is between 1,000 and 1,100. But every time I read about sniper dps here on the board or on the official page, it says my sniper does 1,500 - 1,800 dps.



So what am I doing wrong?



Btw: I'm wearing mostly rakata gear:

Head: Rakata Field Tech's Headgear

Ear: Black Hole Targeter's MK-4 Adaptor

Implants: Rakata Field Medic's Enhancer

Chest: Rakata Field Tech's Jacket

Wrist: Rakata Field Medic's Bracers

Waist: Rakata Field Medic's Belt

Hands: Rakata Field Tech's Gloves

Legs: Rakata Field Tech's Leggings

Feet: Rakata Field Tech's Boots

Relic 1: Matrix Cube M7-R3

Relic 2: Campaign Relic of the Kinetic Tempest

Main Hand: Shadow Fist Assault Rifle

Off Hand: Ripper Nine

My stats are:

Weapon damage - 799 - 950

Bonus damage - 496.7

Accuracy - 102.09%

Ranged Crit Chance - 30.41%

Crit Multi - 69.74%

Tech Crit Chance - 29.37%



Can someone give me a hint?

[Leafblight]

Share parses?

[Korghal]

(04-18-2012 02:22 AM)tdr Wrote:  

(04-18-2012 01:54 AM)Korghal Wrote:  

(04-17-2012 10:25 PM)Tibbel Wrote:  I'd like to make a request: if you post a log or parse, please also include your stats (weapon damage range, ranged/tech bonus damage, tanged/tech crit chance, surge, accuracy percent) so there is some context to the numbers.

950 DPS in full Campaign gear is a little different than 950 in fresh level 50 blues.

Thanks!

Just did 10 sessions, 5 minutes each. Got an average DPS of 1246.6 on the Operation Target Dummy.

Spec - http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#400rcrbbRsRGoZbcZG.1

Clean rotation - SoS > Ambush > Followthrough > Snipe > Rifle Shot
With TA, LT and Shatter Shot up as much as possible.

weap dam - 413-505
Bonus damage - 464.8
Accuracy - 100.67%
Ranged Crit Chance - 39.21%
Tech Crit Chance - 38.09%
Crit Multi - 71.11%


Any tips?

Can you post your log to torparse or fryingtime?
Also, it would be super helpful for people to post equipment at askmrrobot.
My stats are a pretty close match to yours (http://goo.gl/m4xyb - plus a rakata skill stim), and I don't understand how you're pulling 110 more dps with rifleshot as a filler. I'd love to see the details of your rotation.

-t


I will do another log today or tomorrow and post parses. Tho when doin my parses ive come to the conclusion that using Corrosive Dart and/or Orbital Strike on single target is a dps loss. Then i see guides and other people saying its not, which i find abit wierd :/

My accuracy is my Ranged Accuracy. My Tech Accuracy is 110..67%.

[Talshai]

(04-18-2012 08:30 PM)Leafblight Wrote:  Share parses?

That's a little bit tricky... cause I'm playing with a german tor client.

Here's a log from our Firebrand & Stormcaller Kill yesterday. I used the pure MM spec there. They're called "Hetzer & Sturmrufer" in german. You probably gonna need a translation for the skills too:
Durchschlagen = Followthrough
Ausschalten = Takedown)
Hinterhalt = Ambush
Schussfolge = Series of Shots
Orbitalschlag = Orbital Strike
Säurepfeil = Corrosive Dart
Sprengsonde = Explosive Probe
Heckenschuss = Snipe
Überladungsschuss = Overload Shot

[tdr]

(04-18-2012 08:24 PM)Talshai Wrote:  Hi folks,



I'm playing a Marksman Sniper for a couple of weeks now. I didn't worry much about my dps (pre 1.2) since there wasn't any real damage meter around. All of that changed last thursday. We went to Denova as soon as the servers came back on and we killed all the bosses on story-mode. I uploaded the log file from the various encounters to a couple of online combatlog parsers and got shocked. My dps was arround 900. So I rechecked this thread.



I used the Pure MM: 31/7/3 and the MM/Eng Hybrid: 23/16/2 spec from the Compendium on a Ops Boss Target Dummy and tried a few rotations on it. Basicly I used the Sustained Damage Rotation and filled the blanks with best DPE Ranking Attacks from the Compendium list (and of course kept the Shatter Shot debuff up):



Pure MM: SoS – Ambush – FT – Corrosive Dart – Explosive Probe – Snipe – FT – Rifle Shot – Overload Shot – Snipe – FT

MM/Eng Hybrid: SoS – Ambush – FT – Explosive Probe – Interrogation Probe – Snipe – FT – Rifle Shot – Corrosive Dart – Snipe – FT



I uploaded the combatlog to various web parsers again and on top of that, I installed the MOX Desktop Raid Meters. The results of the damage meter addon varies a little bit from the online parsers since its realtime. But its basicly the same. My dps on the target dummy is between 1,000 and 1,100. But every time I read about sniper dps here on the board or on the official page, it says my sniper does 1,500 - 1,800 dps.



So what am I doing wrong?



Btw: I'm wearing mostly rakata gear:

Head: Rakata Field Tech's Headgear

Ear: Black Hole Targeter's MK-4 Adaptor

Implants: Rakata Field Medic's Enhancer

Chest: Rakata Field Tech's Jacket

Wrist: Rakata Field Medic's Bracers

Waist: Rakata Field Medic's Belt

Hands: Rakata Field Tech's Gloves

Legs: Rakata Field Tech's Leggings

Feet: Rakata Field Tech's Boots

Relic 1: Matrix Cube M7-R3

Relic 2: Campaign Relic of the Kinetic Tempest

Main Hand: Shadow Fist Assault Rifle

Off Hand: Ripper Nine

My stats are:

Weapon damage - 799 - 950

Bonus damage - 496.7

Accuracy - 102.09%

Ranged Crit Chance - 30.41%

Crit Multi - 69.74%

Tech Crit Chance - 29.37%



Can someone give me a hint?

You appear to be using a blaster rifle instead of a sniper rifle...
I would also only use *either* CD or EP as filler in the snipe/ambush,followthrough,filler,filler tuples instead of both. I find the immediate energy drain of popping both those abilities on cooldown in the same followthrough cycle to run me OOM all the time.
You might work shattershot into early filler slots and use O(rbital)S(trike) on cooldown. OS is especially tasty if you can work it in during a sniper-volley proc or during target acquired.
Others can correct me, but I think a snipe may be universally superior to overload shot for MM unless run-n-gun is required.

Just some quick impressions. YMMV

-t