Healing Sorc/Sage stat goals and BiS?

[Abdiel619]

I've been scouring the interwebs for info on stat goals and a BiS discussion for my Sorc, but I just can't find it. Maybe it even exists in these forums, and I'm just not seeing it.

At the least, I'm hoping to find numbers that I should be trying to reach stat wise on my Sorc for pve and pvp.

I was also hoping to find, or start a discussion on BiS gear and mods.

Thanks for any help.

[Greenthy]

Also very interested in this. Especially since we might need that little extra in 1.2 for the new operation (which doesn't seem like a joke).

Here's some info of the BiS bracers/belt (afaik):
http://dulfy.net/2012/02/22/orange-brace...g-modding/

[frmorrison]

Two of the more experienced healers had that discussion, and I recall the answer depends on your style of healing. Unlike damage, healing has a personal feel to it so you have to find what works for you.

[Adam]

(03-24-2012 02:39 AM)frmorrison Wrote:  Two of the more experienced healers had that discussion, and I recall the answer depends on your style of healing. Unlike damage, healing has a personal feel to it so you have to find what works for you.

This. We have an upcoming guide that has stat goals and (example) BIS gear; Here is a clip from the "stats" portion of the guide

Kyior Wrote:4.0 - Stats

Primary Stats: Willpower & Power.
Secondary Stats: Critical Rating, Surge Rating, Alacrity Rating.

Stats Priority / Weight for a Force Healer is largely disputed, and in general, the battle comes down to HPSe VS HPS&HPF.

Willpower > Power > Alacrity > Force Crit > Surge

Is the HPSe argument. Pumping Alacrity means you can cast higher-healing skills faster, and thus your healing efficiency goes up, at the cost of it being ALOT easier to burn through force. You have a lot more "emergency healing" power since your big heals (namely DI) cast faster.

Power >= Willpower > Force Crit > Surge > Alacrity

Is the HPS/HPF Argument, and in the case of the sorcerer, Is generally considered a stronger healer, although its alot more work to get your gear to align with those preferences. Power is before Willpower because Power has a higher weight point-for-point, and getting above 30-35% Critical effects us very little. However, its VERY close. 28 Willpower is better (mathematically) then 25 Power. but, you get more healing power with 28 points of power, instead of 28 points of willpower.

Because of diminishing returns; you'll want about 300-ish of Crit & Surge, and then Alacrity is personal preference.

[Chubby]

I agree, I think it depends on your play style and preference. With top tier gear, the stat changes dont seem to provide a huge difference IMO, such as stacking surge vs. alacrity, I haven't noticed a large enough imbalance to go out of my way to seek replacement mods/enhance. Now I will admit, I do stack wp, and have taken mods from columi to place into rakata, trading extra endurance for willpower. In raid im close to 18.5-19k hp for a sorc healer, so I feel thats way more then ever needed.

[Adam]

(03-25-2012 03:12 AM)Chubby Wrote:  I agree, I think it depends on your play style and preference. With top tier gear, the stat changes dont seem to provide a huge difference IMO, such as stacking surge vs. alacrity, I haven't noticed a large enough imbalance to go out of my way to seek replacement mods/enhance. Now I will admit, I do stack wp, and have taken mods from columi to place into rakata, trading extra endurance for willpower. In raid im close to 18.5-19k hp for a sorc healer, so I feel thats way more then ever needed.

It depends on your rotation. Surge has a pretty huge effect on Innervate (base critical chance + 25% with force bending makes it crit, A LOT) and when 1.2 drops Surge will have a pretty large effect on Dark Heal (1.5s cast heal, with ForceBending should be near 100% crit chance.)

Willpower and Power you should stack as high as you can; try to keep everything else in the 300-400 range.

[Chubby]

(03-25-2012 01:28 PM)Adam Wrote:  

(03-25-2012 03:12 AM)Chubby Wrote:  I agree, I think it depends on your play style and preference. With top tier gear, the stat changes dont seem to provide a huge difference IMO, such as stacking surge vs. alacrity, I haven't noticed a large enough imbalance to go out of my way to seek replacement mods/enhance. Now I will admit, I do stack wp, and have taken mods from columi to place into rakata, trading extra endurance for willpower. In raid im close to 18.5-19k hp for a sorc healer, so I feel thats way more then ever needed.

It depends on your rotation. Surge has a pretty huge effect on Innervate (base critical chance + 25% with force bending makes it crit, A LOT) and when 1.2 drops Surge will have a pretty large effect on Dark Heal (1.5s cast heal, with ForceBending should be near 100% crit chance.)

Willpower and Power you should stack as high as you can; try to keep everything else in the 300-400 range.

I agree, not saying that there's absolutely no benefit. I am stacking wp and swapping most of my alacrity sockets as I get the opportunity for surge. Im just more or less saying that at this point in game, it will not make or break a healer to be picky or specific on what to stack. I think that will change in the future, which is exciting, since these adjustments can hopefully distinguish knowledgeable/skilled healers from the rest of the group.

Just out of curiosity Adam, whats your crit% at, buffed, stimmed im at 2025wp with crit buff im running almost 42% and I feel like I need to start working on swapping more slots to reduce this since I think it might be a little overkill and the points could be better suited in another stat.

[Adam]

(03-25-2012 03:12 AM)Chubby Wrote:  Just out of curiosity Adam, whats your crit% at, buffed, stimmed im at 2025wp with crit buff im running almost 42% and I feel like I need to start working on swapping more slots to reduce this since I think it might be a little overkill and the points could be better suited in another stat.

To my knowledge I have near-best-in-slot for everything except wrists (still waiting on an armoring), minus a few 22-24 enhancements that i need to get to be 25.

Buffed, with a Willpower Stim, i'm running the following.

Willpower: 1790
Power: 521
Force Power: 1224
Critical: 294 (37.28%)
Surge: 399 (77.44%)
Alacrity: 109 (3.77%)

At this point i'm just wishing there was a Critical & Power enhancement, instead of only Surge+Power & Alacrity+Power (seems like an oversight to me, but who knows) ...

That plus i'll start taking some out of surge and start pushing alacrity a bit once 1.2 drops; that stat might become useful again since our biggest heal will be a 2.5s cast, and will thus have a lower stair in effectiveness for Alacrity (due to SWTOR's rounding), mathematically speaking every 50 alacrity = another 0.1s shaved off, which is moderately useful.

[BigRedJedi]

(03-27-2012 12:38 AM)Adam Wrote:  At this point i'm just wishing there was a Critical & Power enhancement, instead of only Surge+Power & Alacrity+Power (seems like an oversight to me, but who knows) ...

Advanced Reflective Enhancement 22:

+18 End
+39 Shield
+27 Power
+27 Critical

(It's gotta be an oversight, but it does exist. )

-BRJ

[Kaedis]

Quote:Advanced Reflective Enhancement 22:

+18 End
+39 Shield
+27 Power
+27 Critical

(It's gotta be an oversight, but it does exist. Wink )

-BRJ

Have you actually seen it in-game, though?