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1.2 notes discussion [Guardian/Jugg Tank]
03-20-2012, 02:50 PM
Post: #16
RE: 1.2 notes discussion [Guardian/Jugg Tank]
Let me start off by saying this is just my brief analysis of a small sample of logs I acquired from our encounter with the world boss.


For reference: this is the link to the entire log. This post will also be posted on swtor forums here


First lets take a look at a few where the sonic barrier talent appears to be working properly.

PHP Code:
[03/18/2012 20:09:29] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Force Scream {998270658674688}] [Event {836045448945472}: AbilityActivate {836045448945479}] ()
[
03/18/2012 20:09:29] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Spend {836045448945473}: rage point {836045448938497}] (4)
[
03/18/2012 20:09:29] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
[
03/18/2012 20:09:29] [@Zmarg] [@Shedarii] [Unnatural Might {1781509484707840}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Unnatural Might {1781509484707840}] ()
[
03/18/2012 20:09:29] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
[
03/18/2012 20:09:29] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Restore {836045448945476}: rage point {836045448938497}] (1)
[
03/18/2012 20:09:29] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Mental Assault {2831530204332032}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1813 energy {836045448940874} (850 absorbed {836045448945511})) <1813


Code:
[03/18/2012 20:15:56] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:56] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Revenge {1261642348232704}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Revenge {1261642348232704}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:56] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Force Scream {998270658674688}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (810 kinetic {836045448940873}) <1215>
[03/18/2012 20:15:57] [@Draxxen] [@Zmarg] [Healing Resonance {2785827457335296}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (112) <56>
[03/18/2012 20:15:57] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Nightmare Paranoia {2836860258746368}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (337 internal {836045448940876} (337 absorbed {836045448945511})) <337>
[03/18/2012 20:15:57] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Restore {836045448945476}: rage point {836045448938497}] (1)
[03/18/2012 20:15:57] [@Zyere] [@Zmarg] [Rapid Shots {814282849648640}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (374*) <168>
[03/18/2012 20:15:57] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Ranged Attack {2837538863579136}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -deflect {836045448945508}) <1>
[03/18/2012 20:15:57] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Force Choke {807754499358720}] [Event {836045448945472}: AbilityActivate {836045448945479}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:57] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Crushed {807754499359096}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (298 kinetic {836045448940873}) <447>
[03/18/2012 20:15:58] [@Zyere] [@Zmarg] [Proactive Medicine {987305607168260}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (259) <129>
[03/18/2012 20:15:58] [@Zyere] [@Zmarg] [Rapid Shots {814282849648640}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (200) <90>
[03/18/2012 20:15:58] [@Draxxen] [@Zmarg] [Healing Resonance {2785827457335296}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (112) <56>
[03/18/2012 20:15:58] [@Draxxen] [@Zmarg] [Healing Resonance {2785827457335296}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Healing Resonance {2785827457335296}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:58] [@Zyere] [@Zmarg] [Rapid Shots {814282849648640}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (374*) <168>
[03/18/2012 20:15:58] [@Ookinickn] [@Zmarg] [Resurgence {808699392163840}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (322) <136>
[03/18/2012 20:15:59] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Crushed {807754499359096}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (298 kinetic {836045448940873}) <447>
[03/18/2012 20:15:59] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Restore {836045448945476}: rage point {836045448938497}] (1)
[03/18/2012 20:15:59] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:59] [@Zyere] [@Zmarg] [Kolto Shell {985226842996736}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (452) <203>
[03/18/2012 20:15:59] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Rapid Fire {2831594628841472}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (1855 energy {836045448940874} (512 absorbed {836045448945511})) <1855>

From the first set, you can see that it appears my sonic barrier absorbed 850 damage.
In the second example, sonic barrier appears to absorb the full 337 damage of nightmare paranoia and then later a further 512. This appears to be working as intended. There are many other examples where the shield absorbs the full ~850 damage.


Here are a few examples, however, of it appearing to remove the buff, as if it absorbed damage, if i deflect the following attack.
#1
Code:
[03/18/2012 20:15:23] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Force Scream {998270658674688}] [Event {836045448945472}: AbilityActivate {836045448945479}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:23] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Spend {836045448945473}: rage point {836045448938497}] (2)
[03/18/2012 20:15:23] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:23] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Revenge {1261642348232704}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Revenge {1261642348232704}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:23] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Rapid Fire {2831594628841472}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -deflect {836045448945508}) <1>
[03/18/2012 20:15:23] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Force Scream {998270658674688}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (910 kinetic {836045448940873}) <1366>
[03/18/2012 20:15:23] [@Zyere] [@Zmarg] [Rapid Scan {1419667079954432}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (2708) <1218>
[03/18/2012 20:15:24] [@Draxxen] [@Zmarg] [Diagnostic Scan {1685950757339394}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (401*) <180>
[03/18/2012 20:15:24] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
#2
Code:
[03/18/2012 20:15:10] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:15:10] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Force Scream {998270658674688}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (909 kinetic {836045448940873}) <1363>
[03/18/2012 20:15:11] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Rapid Fire {2831594628841472}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -deflect {836045448945508}) <1>
[03/18/2012 20:15:11] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
#3
Code:
[03/18/2012 20:21:23] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:21:23] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Revenge {1261642348232704}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Revenge {1261642348232704}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:21:23] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Rapid Fire {2831594628841472}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -deflect {836045448945508}) <1>
[03/18/2012 20:21:23] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Quake {1262372492673024}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Accuracy Reduced (Force) {1262372492673280}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:21:23] [@Draxxen] [@Zmarg] [Healing Resonance {2785827457335296}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (112) <56>
[03/18/2012 20:21:23] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Force Scream {998270658674688}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (897 kinetic {836045448940873}) <1346>
[03/18/2012 20:21:23] [@Ookinickn] [@Zmarg] [Resurgence {808699392163840}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (322) <136>
[03/18/2012 20:21:24] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()


This next one is interesting
Code:
[03/18/2012 20:20:25] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:25] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Revenge {1261642348232704}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Revenge {1261642348232704}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:25] [@Ookinickn] [@Zmarg] [Innervate {1104395005591552}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (1795*) <763>
[03/18/2012 20:20:25] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Force Scream {998270658674688}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (867 kinetic {836045448940873}) <1301>
[03/18/2012 20:20:25] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Revenge {1261642348232704}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Revenge {1261642348232704}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:25] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Ranged Attack {2837538863579136}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -deflect {836045448945508}) <1>
[03/18/2012 20:20:25] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Shield Overcharge {2785986371125248}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Shield Overcharge {2785986371125248}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:25] [@Draxxen] [@Zmarg] [Surgical Probe {815240627355648}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (1513) <681>
[03/18/2012 20:20:26] [@Ookinickn] [@Zmarg] [Innervate {1104395005591552}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (1047) <445>
[03/18/2012 20:20:26] [@Draxxen] [@Zmarg] [Kolto Probe {1014415440740352}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (1440*) <648>
[03/18/2012 20:20:26] [@Draxxen] [@Zmarg] [Kolto Probe {1014415440740352}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Kolto Probe {1014415440740352}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:26] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sundering Assault {807806038966272}] [Event {836045448945472}: AbilityActivate {836045448945479}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:26] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Restore {836045448945476}: rage point {836045448938497}] (1)
[03/18/2012 20:20:26] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Crushing Blow {2211062048882688}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Armor Reduced {2211062048882945}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:26] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Sundering Assault {807806038966272}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Armor Reduced {807806038966564}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:26] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Restore {836045448945476}: rage point {836045448938497}] (1)
[03/18/2012 20:20:27] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Restore {836045448945476}: rage point {836045448938497}] (1)
[03/18/2012 20:20:27] [@Ookinickn] [@Zmarg] [Innervate {1104395005591552}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (1795*) <519>
[03/18/2012 20:20:27] [@Zyere] [@Zmarg] [Kolto Shell {985226842996736}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Heal {836045448945500}] (890*)
[03/18/2012 20:20:27] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Nightmare Paranoia {2836860258746368}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (337 internal {836045448940876} (337 absorbed {836045448945511})) <337>
[03/18/2012 20:20:27] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [@Zmarg] [Ranged Attack {2837538863579136}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (0 -deflect {836045448945508}) <1>
[03/18/2012 20:20:27] [@Zmarg] [The Nightmare Pilgrim {2821282412363776}] [Sundering Assault {807806038966272}] [ApplyEffect {836045448945477}: Damage {836045448945501}] (682 energy {836045448940874}) <1024>
[03/18/2012 20:20:28] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Vicious Slash {807827513802752}] [Event {836045448945472}: AbilityActivate {836045448945479}] ()
[03/18/2012 20:20:28] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [] [Spend {836045448945473}: rage point {836045448938497}] (3)
[03/18/2012 20:20:28] [@Zmarg] [@Zmarg] [Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] [RemoveEffect {836045448945478}: Sonic Barrier {2308471907155968}] ()

It would appear that I absorbed the initial 337 from nightmare paranoia, then deflected a ranged attack, leaving ~513 damage to be asborbed, however the sonic barrier buff got removed.

Conclusions:

It would appear that even if an attack is deflected, the game calculates the damage you would take anyway, and the sonic barrier buff is consumed, whether the attack hits you or not.

I do not know exactly how the game determines hits/misses etc, but this data shows that sonic barrier loses effectiveness as you gain defense. The more likely you are to deflect the next attack, the more likely you are to lose the absorb before it has a chance to actually absorb damage.

Thanks for reading, feel free to analyze the logs and draw your own conclusions. I also could be interpreting these logs completely wrong, so please any feedback is appreciated.

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