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Agenteusa · 02-29-2012, 09:05 PM

I would be happy if they just give me a cone heal that heals for less but heals instantly tbh.

Like I said my main concern with RN is that despite healing for lots over a long period (not necessarily meaning it will heal who needs it) it doesn´t heal fast enough.

Just give me something like "Light of Dawn" (sorry mentioning wow Tongue

) and I´m happy. That ability was so underrated imo. Smile

**Mycroft** · 02-29-2012, 11:17 PM

(02-29-2012 09:05 PM)Agenteusa Wrote: I would be happy if they just give me a cone heal that heals for less but heals instantly tbh.

Like I said my main concern with RN is that despite healing for lots over a long period (not necessarily meaning it will heal who needs it) it doesn´t heal fast enough.

Just give me something like "Light of Dawn" (sorry mentioning wow ) and I´m happy. That ability was so underrated imo.

i don't even know how the word "cone" came into this discussion - there is no "cone" heal in the pipe.

Agenteusa · 03-01-2012, 12:17 AM

English is not my main language. I understand frontload heal to be cast in front of you and usually that type of heal has a cone functionailty, but I could be wrong.

Anyway the excerpt from the devs is here :

Quote:That said, we certainly think there’s room for improvements (and our upcoming Game Update 1.2 has a sizeable chunk of such improvements). For example, we are shifting the healing created by the Kolto Cloud ability to be front loaded in 1.2 to allow it to act as an emergency Area of Effect healing tool.

Finally, the perception of a specific class being not desirable can also be affected by the desirability of other classes. For example, Sage/Inquisitor healers are currently able to exceed our intended healing performance at times by affecting multiple heals with the same Conveyance/Force Bending buff. Game Update 1.2 will remove the ability to do so.

Pashtun · 03-01-2012, 01:46 AM

(03-01-2012 12:17 AM)Agenteusa Wrote: English is not my main language. I understand frontload heal to be cast in front of you and usually that type of heal has a cone functionailty, but I could be wrong.

Anyway the excerpt from the devs is here :

Quote:That said, we certainly think there’s room for improvements (and our upcoming Game Update 1.2 has a sizeable chunk of such improvements). For example, we are shifting the healing created by the Kolto Cloud ability to be front loaded in 1.2 to allow it to act as an emergency Area of Effect healing tool.

Finally, the perception of a specific class being not desirable can also be affected by the desirability of other classes. For example, Sage/Inquisitor healers are currently able to exceed our intended healing performance at times by affecting multiple heals with the same Conveyance/Force Bending buff. Game Update 1.2 will remove the ability to do so.

I think we know very very little about how they will change our AoE heal and other heals in 1.2. It very well could be a cone heal.

Personally I think we are getting away from the focus of SITH WARRIOR by speculating. That is why I questioned the other posters interpretation as it was presented as fact. I think speculation is better left for the swtor forums and we stick to data here....just my opinion of course.

SirArion · 03-01-2012, 02:33 AM

Definition of Frontload is:
"Concentrate benefits in an early period"

This implies that the heal will have more of a benefit early but still have an ongoing benefit, thus I expect to see it work something like 800 instantly with 700 over X seconds instead of 1500 over X seconds. It will be a very tiny upgrade unless they increase it's overall coefficient or the base heal amount.

Agenteusa · 03-01-2012, 02:58 AM

(03-01-2012 01:46 AM)Pashtun Wrote:
(03-01-2012 12:17 AM)Agenteusa Wrote: English is not my main language. I understand frontload heal to be cast in front of you and usually that type of heal has a cone functionailty, but I could be wrong.

Anyway the excerpt from the devs is here :

Quote:That said, we certainly think there’s room for improvements (and our upcoming Game Update 1.2 has a sizeable chunk of such improvements). For example, we are shifting the healing created by the Kolto Cloud ability to be front loaded in 1.2 to allow it to act as an emergency Area of Effect healing tool.

Finally, the perception of a specific class being not desirable can also be affected by the desirability of other classes. For example, Sage/Inquisitor healers are currently able to exceed our intended healing performance at times by affecting multiple heals with the same Conveyance/Force Bending buff. Game Update 1.2 will remove the ability to do so.

I think we know very very little about how they will change our AoE heal and other heals in 1.2. It very well could be a cone heal.

Personally I think we are getting away from the focus of SITH WARRIOR by speculating. That is why I questioned the other posters interpretation as it was presented as fact. I think speculation is better left for the swtor forums and we stick to data here....just my opinion of course.

Just to clear it I would never put information from the swtor forums since I would risk it not being accurate.

That quote is from a swtor developer blog and they say they will change it. Its from the Lead Combat designer Georg Zoller.

http://www.swtor.com/blog/community-qa-feb-17th-2012

Pashtun · 03-01-2012, 03:37 AM

(03-01-2012 02:58 AM)Agenteusa Wrote:
(03-01-2012 01:46 AM)Pashtun Wrote:
(03-01-2012 12:17 AM)Agenteusa Wrote: English is not my main language. I understand frontload heal to be cast in front of you and usually that type of heal has a cone functionailty, but I could be wrong.

Anyway the excerpt from the devs is here :

Quote:That said, we certainly think there’s room for improvements (and our upcoming Game Update 1.2 has a sizeable chunk of such improvements). For example, we are shifting the healing created by the Kolto Cloud ability to be front loaded in 1.2 to allow it to act as an emergency Area of Effect healing tool.

Finally, the perception of a specific class being not desirable can also be affected by the desirability of other classes. For example, Sage/Inquisitor healers are currently able to exceed our intended healing performance at times by affecting multiple heals with the same Conveyance/Force Bending buff. Game Update 1.2 will remove the ability to do so.

I think we know very very little about how they will change our AoE heal and other heals in 1.2. It very well could be a cone heal.

Personally I think we are getting away from the focus of SITH WARRIOR by speculating. That is why I questioned the other posters interpretation as it was presented as fact. I think speculation is better left for the swtor forums and we stick to data here....just my opinion of course.

Just to clear it I would never put information from the swtor forums since I would risk it not being accurate.

That quote is from a swtor developer blog and they say they will change it. Its from the Lead Combat designer Georg Zoller.

http://www.swtor.com/blog/community-qa-feb-17th-2012

Sorry, I wasn't addressing you personally. I was referring to the speculation of the changes to the AoE heal. My opinion is that the swtor forums are full of speculation and what players want, whereas, sith warrior is based more on data.

**Mycroft** · (This post was last modified: 03-01-2012 07:07 AM by Mycroft.)

aside from analysing what the Lead Combat Designer Georg Zoellner meant with what he said, which is worthy of discussion:
stop the full page quotes and move back to discussing the IA Healer compendium for the current mechanics.
We will see what changes are actualy coming when they hit the PTR

**Kaladris** · 03-01-2012, 08:54 PM

Moderation note

After letting the discussion go on for a while ( and sleeping, as i live in europe, would have reacted faster if i were awake), i decided to end this pretty unproductive discussion about how, if and when RN is going to be changed in 1.2.
We will see the change eventually and will then be able to have an adaequate discussion about the changes, if there will be any.

To conserve the discussion at least for some time, i decided to split it into a new post that will now be locked.
I decided to not warn anyone or delete any post as this discussion obviously just surged (haha) into our thread and got everyone's attention instantly, which makes me assume that nobody here was trolling or feeding the troll intentionally.
Please note that this is not the regular procedure, and that i *will* delete future posts that contain nothing more than speculation and i *will* warn the posters, as speculation is just consuming mental resources that are probably even better invested in porn, just to get you the idea.
I will delete move the speculation thread after some time over in the archive, and hope that this whole thing now ends.
I know it it pretty appetizing to have something to speculate about after a long period of time with just cold number chrunching, but that doesn't change the fact that this forum is not the right place to do it.

I hope i was able to make my point clear, that we are now all able to get back to the expected niveau of this thread that i am used to, and that there will be no more further posts in direction of the moved ones.

So long,
Kala