Threat conversation

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(05-02-2012 12:05 PM)GeeDee Wrote:  Great info guys. I found my way here doing a search on Juggs Threat .

I'm having the same issues on the 2nd fight in EC HM with Threat.

I play a Sith Juggs (Full Immortal atm)
Full Rakata (with 5 augments belt/bracers/pants/saber/1 implant)

I almost always start on the right side, with a marauder and a sniper. I guard the Marauder however by the time DD hits I'll often lose aggro right after to the marauder which causes the 2 people who took the DD to instantly die, obviously making a taunt after that rather useless. I fear using my regular taunt a head of time because the tank swap comes almost right after DDs. Most know that's not that far into the fight. To counter this from happening they are having to slow their damage until after the tank swap happens.

After doing a search on this I'm getting the feeling I'm not the only one who's having this problem. Does anyone have any tips that could help me from losing aggro before that first tank swap? Someone else mentioned it here but with such a tight enrage timer in that 2nd fight every little bit of dps counts.

My typical rotation is as follows:

Saber Throw > Force Charge > Smash > Force Scream >Sundering Armor > Crushing Blow > Backhand > Ravage
followed by Retaliation or Vicious Slash and once cooldowns pop for the above mentioned I try to fit them back into the rotation .

I've posted this on other forums with people suggesting that I move FS and Smashing to the end of the rotation (which makes a lot of sense since at the beginning of the fight I'm really not taking much damage to begin with . I have roughly 24k hp in raids atm). What are people using for rotations?

And are people using more hybrid specs to build on threat or are most remaining in the cookie cutter Immortal spec?

Thanks for any advice I get

-GD

We've been running into the same issue on the 2nd boss in hard mode, regardless of who we have tanking (we use a Shadow and a Vanguard). We have 3 Commando DPS and my Sentinel (Watchman spec), and every time my Sentinel starts the fight on Stormcaller, I draw aggro right around the time DD hits, usually right after, so our 2 DPS get one-shot when I don't have time to hit my threat drop. We've tried several times with each tank on Stormcaller and with me popping my threat drop at various times, but no matter what we tried, I'd always pull aggro at some point--usually the exact wrong moment--and wipe the raid.

To work around this, I start on Firebrand and one of the other DPS stands on Firebrand while attacking Stormcaller, then we swap right after the first DD. After that point, I usually don't pull threat again as long as I'm guarded by whichever tank is on Stormcaller, and we can still beat the enrage timer since we don't really lose any DPS. The problem probably is a combination of my Sentinel being the best geared character in our raid and Sentinels in general being OP in PvE.