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**Smokeskin** · 03-08-2012, 01:58 AM

You shouldn't stop stacking crit. Power and cunning is better after ~250 crit, but surge and alacrity is always worse. Maybe at some insane crit rating it changes, but at reasonable values it doesn't seem to cross.

crudedragos · 03-08-2012, 06:54 AM

(03-08-2012 01:58 AM)Smokeskin Wrote: You shouldn't stop stacking crit. Power and cunning is better after ~250 crit, but surge and alacrity is always worse. Maybe at some insane crit rating it changes, but at reasonable values it doesn't seem to cross.

Just to add to this. You almost never trade crit for surge or alacrity. Unless there's some awesome enhancements I don't know about.
Armoring: End/Prim Stat (Expertise on pvp gear)
Mods come with End/Prim Stat/(Crit or Power)
Enhancements come with End/(Crit or Power)/(Surge or Alacrity)
(I can't remember whether accuracy is secondary or tertiary)

The only way you trade crit or power for surge or alactrity is in an augment slot, which can give +28 to one stat.

denDAY04 · 03-08-2012, 08:58 PM

(03-08-2012 01:58 AM)Smokeskin Wrote: You shouldn't stop stacking crit. Power and cunning is better after ~250 crit, but surge and alacrity is always worse. Maybe at some insane crit rating it changes, but at reasonable values it doesn't seem to cross.

Shouldn't the priority list then look something like this:
Crit (to 250) > Cunning >= Power > Surge (to ~250) > Alacrity > Surge
Or should you still take wager power over crit while not neglecting Crit enough to not hit 250?

**Mycroft** · 03-09-2012, 04:32 AM

(03-08-2012 08:58 PM)denDAY04 Wrote: Shouldn't the priority list then look something like this:
Crit (to 250) > Cunning >= Power > Surge (to ~250) > Alacrity > Surge
Or should you still take wager power over crit while not neglecting Crit enough to not hit 250?

Crit (to 250) > Cunning >= Power > Surge (to ~250) > Crit > Alacrity > Surge

**Smokeskin** · 03-09-2012, 04:41 AM

I'm sure that crit is substantially better than surge at MUCH lower surge ratings. I'll get some numbers done in the weekend

**Mycroft** · (This post was last modified: 03-09-2012 06:57 PM by Mycroft.)

(03-09-2012 04:41 AM)Smokeskin Wrote: I'm sure that crit is substantially better than surge at MUCH lower surge ratings. I'll get some numbers done in the weekend

but than again, as has been laid out before by me and others, you don't actualy trade crit for surge or vice versa.

Jack'Mihoff · (This post was last modified: 03-13-2012 03:05 PM by Jack'Mihoff.)

Nice job but.. i'm really concerned about your calculations on both crit rating and alacrity as they are not the same on this website :
http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character.
The stats on this website seems to more accurate to my character in game.

**Smokeskin** · 03-13-2012, 05:59 PM

(03-13-2012 03:04 PM)JackMihoff Wrote: Nice job but.. i'm really concerned about your calculations on both crit rating and alacrity as they are not the same on this website :
http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character.
The stats on this website seems to more accurate to my character in game.

The formulas seem fine to me. You're probably entering a wrong value somewhere.

If you post your relevant stats and numbers, I'd actually have something to check and work with, but with the little info you're giving, all I can do is check the formulas.

crudedragos · (This post was last modified: 03-14-2012 07:07 AM by crudedragos.)

(03-13-2012 03:04 PM)JackMihoff Wrote: Nice job but.. i'm really concerned about your calculations on both crit rating and alacrity as they are not the same on this website :
http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character.
The stats on this website seems to more accurate to my character in game.

Few questions.

By "more accurate" do you mean neither are exact?
Is the spreadsheet/MrRobot greater or less than actual numbers? Have you picked up any datacrons?
Which numbers are not the same? Are you sure your not confusing ranged/tech tabs?

denDAY04 · 03-14-2012, 09:43 AM

I have noticed something which really isn't a flaw or anything, but in the comparison cells the code seems to be (Comparison[#] - Base) which means that if you modify your stats you will get a negative value for an improvement in HPS..
It might be me reading something wrong, but should those two cells switch places so an increase in HPS from the values entered to calculate the new base would be positive for an increase?

For easy tracking the formulas I'm talking about is G44 and the other comparison cells in that area.