Some PVP stats/info you might find useful

[Neokarasu]

(02-22-2012 04:47 AM)frmorrison Wrote:  

(02-22-2012 04:36 AM)Neokarasu Wrote:  Should be noted that they changed the mechanic such that you lose the buff when you die (which tends to happen inside a WZ).

I certainly keep my War Effort buff after I die; at least the buff that gives extra valor for completing a warzone.

A note about the war effort buff is when you return to Ilum after a warzone, most of the time you have to leave/reenter the zone to get the buff again. I stay near Central where there is a path that leaves the zone to refresh the buff.

I'll check again but I never retain my buff after zoning out of a WZ and WZs generally average 15 minutes (i.e., not long enough for the buff to fall).

[frmorrison]

(02-22-2012 04:54 AM)Neokarasu Wrote:  I'll check again but I never retain my buff after zoning out of a WZ and WZs generally average 15 minutes (i.e., not long enough for the buff to fall).

That happens to me if I queue from Ilum and when I rezone the buff is gone, however if I queue from somewhere else I keep the Ilum buff for the normal time. That is why I hang out near Central node in Ilum, so I can get the buff quickly.

[Neokarasu]

(02-22-2012 08:45 AM)frmorrison Wrote:  

(02-22-2012 04:54 AM)Neokarasu Wrote:  I'll check again but I never retain my buff after zoning out of a WZ and WZs generally average 15 minutes (i.e., not long enough for the buff to fall).

That happens to me if I queue from Ilum and when I rezone the buff is gone, however if I queue from somewhere else I keep the Ilum buff for the normal time. That is why I hang out near Central node in Ilum, so I can get the buff quickly.

Yea, this is what I just figured out about 10 minutes ago from talking w/ guildies.

[dulfy]

(02-22-2012 04:36 AM)Neokarasu Wrote:  Ilum Valor buffs

Should be noted that at 5 stacks, you gain control of the zone (an additional buff) and that buff gives you an extra 300%. Also, each stack isn't equal. The first stack gives you 200% and subsequent stack gives 50% more. At 5 stacks (and therefore having every buff), it gives you 900% extra Valor, totalling 20 + 180 Valor per kill.

They've also changed the duration to 60m.

Ok, so first stack give you 200%, each of the subsequent 4 stacks give you 50% each, total 200% + 200% = 400. Also when you control everything, you get an additional 300% making it into 700. Is the defender buff giving you an additional 200% for the 900% valor bonus?

Also does this affect warzone completion - do you get more than 200 valor per warzone competition as well?

[Neokarasu]

(02-22-2012 02:36 PM)dulfy Wrote:  Ok, so first stack give you 200%, each of the subsequent 4 stacks give you 50% each, total 200% + 200% = 400. Also when you control everything, you get an additional 300% making it into 700. Is the defender buff giving you an additional 200% for the 900% valor bonus?

Also does this affect warzone completion - do you get more than 200 valor per warzone competition as well?

Right. Presumably, when you control everything you would be fighting on the node you control. Ergo, defender buff.

You do get varying Valor amount to WZs based on how many stacks of WE you have. IIRC it's 100 extra Valor for the first stack with 25 extra valor for each subsequent stack (though I'll have to double check on that. Or someone else can do it easily enough).


Also, I'm changing my last comment on the WE buff. It doesn't disappear when you die. It disappears when you zone into the Ilum PvP zone from a WZ.

[dulfy]

(02-23-2012 12:12 AM)Neokarasu Wrote:  

(02-22-2012 02:36 PM)dulfy Wrote:  Ok, so first stack give you 200%, each of the subsequent 4 stacks give you 50% each, total 200% + 200% = 400. Also when you control everything, you get an additional 300% making it into 700. Is the defender buff giving you an additional 200% for the 900% valor bonus?

Also does this affect warzone completion - do you get more than 200 valor per warzone competition as well?

Right. Presumably, when you control everything you would be fighting on the node you control. Ergo, defender buff.

You do get varying Valor amount to WZs based on how many stacks of WE you have. IIRC it's 100 extra Valor for the first stack with 25 extra valor for each subsequent stack (though I'll have to double check on that. Or someone else can do it easily enough).


Also, I'm changing my last comment on the WE buff. It doesn't disappear when you die. It disappears when you zone into the Ilum PvP zone from a WZ.

Ok ty, I will change those in a bit!

[Maulfire]

Just noticed that the expertise listed for champion main hand is incorrect. Should be 45, not 48. I checked this last night to make sure by checking the Survivor's Double Bladed Lightsaber and champion is 45 while Battlemaster is 48.

[Abbster]

I wanted to know the possible math behind combining Rakata gear and Battlemaster gear. Would it be more benificial to stack pvp gear or a mixture of both pvp and pve? Or is it all personal prefferenes.

[dulfy]

(02-24-2012 03:44 AM)Maulfire Wrote:  Just noticed that the expertise listed for champion main hand is incorrect. Should be 45, not 48. I checked this last night to make sure by checking the Survivor's Double Bladed Lightsaber and champion is 45 while Battlemaster is 48.

Nope - the champion/battlemaster mainhands are odd in that some are 45 and some are 48 - like this one.

http://www.torhead.com/item/8iWMwZT/cham...lightsaber (48 expertise ratign).

[Maulfire]

(03-03-2012 02:13 PM)dulfy Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 03:44 AM)Maulfire Wrote:  Just noticed that the expertise listed for champion main hand is incorrect. Should be 45, not 48. I checked this last night to make sure by checking the Survivor's Double Bladed Lightsaber and champion is 45 while Battlemaster is 48.

Nope - the champion/battlemaster mainhands are odd in that some are 45 and some are 48 - like this one.

http://www.torhead.com/item/8iWMwZT/cham...lightsaber (48 expertise ratign).

Yea i noticed that too after the fact, just forgot to come back here and mention that