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Stab · 02-11-2012, 06:39 AM

Two scenarios; First was aoe trash before or after Gharj, on numerious occasions I was able to drop off mobs reflexively with Chaff Flare. We all stack up in melee range so the 110 threshold would apply for everyone. Second was actually on a boss wipe. As we were exiting area my mercenary pal decided to screw with me, he was standing next to me and had boss aggro, casted chaff flare and boss moved to me, I then casted chaff flare and dropped it off on him and exited area as he was being slain.

I do not get guard, I am rarely in range to utilize it as a mercenary. Likewise there were no intercedes or sorc tugs being cast on me per my request to do some threat testing. I'm sure in the grand scale of things it is possible there were extraneous influences, but my original question was based on experience and I am posting what I have seen by my experiences in game.

**Kaedis** · (This post was last modified: 02-11-2012 07:03 AM by Kaedis.)

Hmm...all of those are hard to explain with the game files as they are, and I know for a fact my Cloud Mind isn't doing a damn thing (and it has an identical file entry to Chaff Flare). This requires investigation (and I don't have a high level BH).

If you want to test it in a controlled setting, grab a patient tank buddy, go find one of the low level world bosses (the DK one works well), and have the tank beat on it a bit (ideally naked except for a weapon). Then, using just your free basic attack (also ideally naked except for a weapon), beat on it in melee range until you just pull threat. Cast Chaff Flare. If it swings back to the tank instantly (1/(1.10*0.75) = 121.2%), it's working as stated (25% threat drop). If the tank has to hit it for about 10% of the damage he's done so far, it's not.

Stab · (This post was last modified: 02-11-2012 07:13 AM by Stab.)

I'll see if I can find a volunteer and check this out.

**LagunaD** · 02-11-2012, 11:26 AM

There's no particular reason these tests couldn't be done with a pet (taunts off, obviously, or even non-tank), is there?

Granted, a player is better to mirror 4-man content more closely, but the pet is always available.

**Kaedis** · 02-11-2012, 02:15 PM

Quote:There's no particular reason these tests couldn't be done with a pet (taunts off, obviously, or even non-tank), is there?

Granted, a player is better to mirror 4-man content more closely, but the pet is always available.

I don't trust that pet tanks are necessarily identical mechanically.

Wolff Laarcen · 02-23-2012, 11:01 AM

Any chance that these abilities were stealth-fixed in yesterday's patch?

**Kaedis** · 02-23-2012, 01:48 PM

Negative. I retested the mechanic on Monday to confirm the game files, and those fields didn't change in the patch this week.

Stab · (This post was last modified: 03-13-2012 11:09 PM by Stab.)

Never got around to actually testing this outside of raid situations. The current theories are that Extricate and Intercede are broken dropping 2500% threat, while our chaff flare is working as intended at 25% correct? Funny thing those decimal places.

**Kaedis** · 03-14-2012, 12:20 AM

Quote:Never got around to actually testing this outside of raid situations. The current theories are that Extricate and Intercede are broken dropping 2500% threat, while our chaff flare is working as intended at 25% correct? Funny thing those decimal places.

Correct, that is the currently prevailing theory. See this thread for more details on the how this behavior (and several others, most notably taunts) were tested.