Alacrity and the GCD

[Freehugs]

Great work LagunaD

[Threadnought]

Alacrity has never effected GCD. I'm not sure where this information came from but it is more than likely the mind playing tricks on the players.

[Kaedis]

Thread, proper science (the basis of theorycrafting) requires us to test these potential hypothesis, rather than just assume.

[LagunaD]

(12-06-2011 04:57 AM)Kore Wrote:  Thread, proper science (the basis of theorycrafting) requires us to test these potential hypothesis, rather than just assume.

Heh.

Well, I was very skeptical, but if Alacrity affected the GCD it would be a pretty big deal, as it would become a potentially important stat for melee classes.

Now that testing is over, and we know that Alacrity didn't affect the GCD in the final testing build, I don't think we'll need to test it again any time soon. If BW eventually makes that change to the live version of the game, I am pretty sure they will inform the players.

[Ezmode]

Alacrity technically shouldn't affect anything except Force/Tech abilities, so it would do little to help melee. I would love it if it did, increasing rage generation rate would be amazing.

[bobajob]

(12-06-2011 05:33 AM)LagunaD Wrote:  Heh.

Well, I was very skeptical, but if Alacrity affected the GCD it would be a pretty big deal, as it would become a potentially important stat for melee classes.

Now that testing is over, and we know that Alacrity didn't affect the GCD in the final testing build,

someone wasnt paying attention on the 1/12/11 build

alacrity was reducing below the gcd, people were popping 1.2 second LS with polarity active, was also tested on an agent http://forum.alterswtor.com/index.php?/t...e__st__620

[Alratan]

Interesting, if true. I didn't notice an IA saying anything about it in that link however, nor any discussion of the Alacrity stat - merely Polarity Shift

Polarity Shift
Sith Inquisitor (Sorcerer)

Activation time: Instant
Cooldown: 120 secs
Mirror: Mental Alacrity

Your connection to the Force shifts, granting [20]% alacrity for 10 seconds.

. Alacrity may not impact the GCD even if a specific ability does. We need more testing, again.

LagunaD, can you put that FRAPS'd video up anywhere?

[Kaedis]

Quote:someone wasnt paying attention on the 1/12/11 build

The patch notes say nothing to this effect. We need supporting evidence.

I recommend and extended duration fraps test. That should easily solve the riddle. Fraps ~2 minutes of instacasts, then count the time and the casts.

[bobajob]

(12-06-2011 08:47 PM)Alratan Wrote:  Interesting, if true. I didn't notice an IA saying anything about it in that link however, nor any discussion of the Alacrity stat - merely Polarity Shift

Polarity Shift
Sith Inquisitor (Sorcerer)

Activation time: Instant
Cooldown: 120 secs
Mirror: Mental Alacrity

Your connection to the Force shifts, granting [20]% alacrity for 10 seconds.

. Alacrity may not impact the GCD even if a specific ability does. We need more testing, again.

LagunaD, can you put that FRAPS'd video up anywhere?

the convo covers 3 pages, frank talks about gear testing with IA on the last page

Quote:Posted Today, 06:44 AM

severtendon, on 06 December 2011 - 05:21 AM, said:

Source?


Reading a couple of posts on the last page might've been useful. My streaming buddies and I put the question to the test on a 50 Sniper (Target Acquired and gear) while beta was still ongoing and concluded that Alacrity now lowers the GCD.

Unfortunately, we didn't have quite as much time as I expected to work out precise values, so you'll need to take our conclusion more or less at face value until launch.

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(12-06-2011 09:06 PM)Kore Wrote:  The patch notes say nothing to this effect. We need supporting evidence.

I recommend and extended duration fraps test. That should easily solve the riddle. Fraps ~2 minutes of instacasts, then count the time and the casts.

yeah they snuck it in last minute and under the radar, i was arguing with a guy about it when he basically said he was watching his buddy doing it there and then through stream cast so went off to find more info and Frank tested it out for me (his friend had full beta access) i ahd to wait for the day after for weekend entry

as for the fraps .... guess youll need to wait till games out and were of high enough level to see it in action

[Alratan]

(12-06-2011 09:10 PM)bobajob Wrote:  the convo covers 3 pages, frank talks about gear testing with IA on the last page

Quote:Reading a couple of posts on the last page might've been useful. My streaming buddies and I put the question to the test on a 50 Sniper (Target Acquired and gear) while beta was still ongoing and concluded that Alacrity now lowers the GCD.

Unfortunately, we didn't have quite as much time as I expected to work out precise values, so you'll need to take our conclusion more or less at face value until launch.

Yes, but there's nothing we can take from that aside from "they did tests". No methodology, numbers or video we can look at. As they say, themselves, we'll just have to take their conclusion at face value - not something we're typically comfortable with!