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Rooks · (This post was last modified: 03-01-2012 11:56 PM by Rooks.)

I always just assumed Rocket Burst targeted randomly (outside of the tank). I've seen it on every member of our raid over the weeks, with no real rhyme or reason, similar to the sticky grenade on Fab. If it was on the #3 threat, I think near the end of the fight you'd see it consistently on certain players, most likely DPS with no threat dumps. I've never noticed this myself.

**Petrus** · 03-02-2012, 12:10 AM

(03-01-2012 11:42 PM)Rooks Wrote: I always just assumed Rocket Burst targeted randomly (outside of the tank). I've seen it on every member of our raid over the weeks, with no real rhyme or reason, similar to the sticky grenade on Fab. If it was on the #3 threat, I think near the end of the fight you'd see it consistently on certain players, most likely DPS with no threat dumps. I've never noticed this myself.

See, we do see this. I almost always get it because I start out burst healing the tank. From there it generally goes to our Op, then sniper, and then generally bounces between our Op and Marauder for the rest of the fight. It's very consistent. Most of our raid members have never got it.

Unfortunately the only kill I've frapsed was our first one on Christmas day, so I can't really go back and check. I'll look this week though.

Rooks · (This post was last modified: 03-02-2012 02:19 AM by Rooks.)

I suppose one way to test for certain (for the sake of simply testing) would be to take three tanks in and let them scrap for aggro. One of them would always get it, in theory.

It would be handy if there were some logic to it. Still, After weeks of training, random or set target, our raid has been conditioned to handle it to a degree that it is a non-issue (except when they fall asleep at the wheel). I assume most other raids have too.

Belaganor · 03-02-2012, 02:27 AM

Petrus we just slightly differ our approach. By having the 3 "tanks" that always take the burst we control who gets it and who has to be healed. Our dps just use normal stims to maximize output, instead of hitpoints. Same thing really in the long run. I do love this video though and seeing myself go flying across the screen every 10 seconds or so.

http://tinyurl.com/85k9cjp

Basically:
1) spread people out for reticules
2) Have a strategy to take the bursts
3) Have a strategy to handle to salvos (pull out/sniper bubbles/aoe healing/etc)
4) win
5) Oh..and don't have shitty dps. He does have a somewhat aggressive enrage timer.

demoncrat · 03-08-2012, 05:31 AM

(03-01-2012 11:29 PM)Petrus Wrote: Our offtank only ever gets hit if he gets the dot, or he doesn't move out of stomp. So maybe Cannonade always goes on #1 on aggro, and by having the tank taunting while in the air it keeps it on him, negating the need for extra tanks.

Powertech tank here: slamming a finger on Neural Dart does not keep the boss on me while I fly back and hit the side of the entrance to EV. This whole time I'm in Neural Dart range.

I'm not saying it's not happening to you, but it certainly is not to my PT tank. Instead the Assassin gets aggro until I charge back (which is as soon as I hit the ground). He takes the entire hit, and then the boss turns back on me.

What body type are you? I wonder if that has something to do with this, and hitboxes within range.

**Petrus** · 03-08-2012, 05:46 AM

Our PT tank had a little issue with this as well. We assumed it was the player, but maybe not? He seemed to only get the taunt off maybe one in every 3 knockbacks. We solo tanked this again last night with an assassin, and I can confirm that only our assassin tank took any kind of damage, other than from the 3 rocket abilities done to other players.

thrakkemarn · 03-23-2012, 05:30 AM

Hey, wondering if people are running into the same issue as our guild - the reticules are not showing up on targets, and people will just suddenly explode with no warning. On NMM 16m this has caused us to wipe a lot. Is it simply a matter of people not spreading out enough? Are we meant to just spread out and totally ignore the reticules? (our strat for HM is to have the targeted person run away, usually shielded)

(03-02-2012 02:27 AM)Belaganor Wrote: Petrus we just slightly differ our approach. By having the 3 "tanks" that always take the burst we control who gets it and who has to be healed. Our dps just use normal stims to maximize output, instead of hitpoints. Same thing really in the long run. I do love this video though and seeing myself go flying across the screen every 10 seconds or so.

http://tinyurl.com/85k9cjp

Basically:
1) spread people out for reticules
2) Have a strategy to take the bursts
3) Have a strategy to handle to salvos (pull out/sniper bubbles/aoe healing/etc)
4) win
5) Oh..and don't have shitty dps. He does have a somewhat aggressive enrage timer.

By "bursts" are you referring to Cannonade? We've been able to handle that by having just 2 tanks rotate and nobody else ever gets hit with a Cannonade.

Antario · 03-23-2012, 07:22 PM

not spread out enough and your members are blind/liars

it shows up as a red animation on their chest, as long as your not in first person view you cant miss it

thrakkemarn · (This post was last modified: 03-24-2012 05:41 AM by thrakkemarn.)

*Shrug* I'm a tank so I don't see the grenades but I don't think my guidies are blind or lying. We have no problems with Fabricator grenades being spotted, and it's been reported by both dps and healers that they don't see a reticule on NMM Annihilation. The rest of EV NMM was a cake walk.

Is there any further info on who the grenades target or is it just a random melee/ranged dps/healer?