Op Lock Outs & Difficulty

[Primalthirst]

Not only that, but less loot is wasted. I remember seeing someone prove that in wow it would take like 10% longer to get half bis but nearly twice as long for full bis on average in a 10 man as compared to a 25 man.

[Rhaegar]

Has anyone confirmed if the gear from 8-man and 16-man are the same? I spent most of my time in WoW doing 25-mans (with 10-mans on the off-days), but ever since Cataclysm, I've stuck to 10-man, and I prefer it. Anyway, my guild isn't very big, and although doing 16-mans is entirely possible, we just want to make sure. We would prefer to do 8-mans, but not if the gear is worse.

[Rystet]

(12-22-2011 04:17 PM)Rhaegar Wrote:  Has anyone confirmed if the gear from 8-man and 16-man are the same? I spent most of my time in WoW doing 25-mans (with 10-mans on the off-days), but ever since Cataclysm, I've stuck to 10-man, and I prefer it. Anyway, my guild isn't very big, and although doing 16-mans is entirely possible, we just want to make sure. We would prefer to do 8-mans, but not if the gear is worse.

I can not confirm with first hand experience, but that is what the Devs have been telling us all along.

Unless they changed there minds, they had made it very clear that 8 and 16 mans would drop the same loot, but 16 man loot would drop at a higher rate per boss.

[Chamillion]

The gear is the same on 8 and 16. You can see this from the vendors on the supply section of the fleet. Gear is separated into sections. The lowest is Normal 8/16 and heroic token gear called Tionese. Then it goes into the latter two types (sorry no names, game is down). We're currently 4/5 EV (Last boss bugged) and doing heroics, and there isn't a separate gear vendor for 8 and 16, only difficulties.

[Demongate]

Irrelevant post. Disregard.

[Chamillion]

Yes. Needs to be changed imo, but yes.

[Poksu]

What benefit is there to bring melee? It seems like swtor hasnt solved the riddle of how to make melee wanted.

[Demongate]

Only reason is because having 10-12 ranged dps fighting for the same gear would be bad.

[Kaedis]

Quote:Only reason is because having 10-12 ranged dps fighting for the same gear would be bad.

Gear is divided by class, not by ranged/melee. Operatives and snipers compete for gear, not snipers and sorcs.

[Demongate]

Right but what I meant is by having so many dps that are ranged, you'll have many of the same advanced classes.

Ex. 4 mercs, 4 sorcs, 4 snipers.