Buff / Debuff Mechanics Questions

[Freehugs]

Can you post then numbers you got Sirrah?

[Sirrah]

(01-18-2012 10:40 AM)Freehugs Wrote:  Can you post then numbers you got Sirrah?

2248 Base armor on the Assassin we were testing on pre armor debuffs.
1799 After Shatter Shot (20% armor debuff)
1350 After 5x Sunder (another 20% debuff)

The amount of armor reduced each time is identical 449, which is 20% of base armor 2248. This happened the same on a Sorc we tested on but I don't have the number wrote down.

With Dark Charge, the Assassin had ~5700 armor, what we noted was that the armor reduced was exactly again 449, so we concluded that it works on base armor.

We didn't have duplicate classes to test if multiple debuffs of the same classes stacked so we couldn't test if armor can go negative.

[Saeria]

This seems to be as good of a place to put it, but who is in charge of OpComp? All agents have access to a talent granting -10% Accuracy for 8 seconds on a 1 minute cooldown.

I bring this up, because it seems reasonable in a 16-man raid to have quite a few -Accuracy debuffs stacked. ~2 tanks each with -20%, throw in a Medic and a Sniper or two and that's -70% Accuracy in AoE debuffs.

[Stab]

Something of note. With debuffs being additive in nautre, we now need to speculate the nature of armor penetration buffs(High Velocity Gas Cylinder, Acid Blade, and the like) My first assumption was that these were additive with debuffs, but it seems I may be incorrect after some testing last night. I believe the -60% armor is applied to the boss ,and thereafter the -35% armor is applied to the amount remaining armor. Anyone else have any experience with this?

[longshot]

So was anyone able to do a -armor debuff stacking test on a mob? Or have all the tests been done on a player? Is there a possibility that debuffs work differently on raid bosses vs players?

[flowqz]

(01-13-2012 10:21 AM)Stab Wrote:  Just tested this. Sniper armor debuff force lightning ticking ~ 550 Sniper debuff and Merc debuff force lightning ticking ~590

(01-13-2012 12:15 PM)Elobi Wrote:  Would the ~ imply as the avg tick you got during testing or ?

Since from 550 - 590 could easily be rng playing troll with you.

I was going to test this with both Sunder and 5% miss chance in a ffa area, but it got too late before the actual esting started, I will have the final results tomorrow.

more information would be great!

as someone else already stated, its nothing new that debuffs on players may stack, while not stacking on npcs.

[Stab]

Sorry, been busy. I will provide better test results asap.