Sith Assassin PvP

[Rising]

I agree, the Darkness tree is just too good to pass up. Blood of Sith is the gem here, and all the little trinkets that you need to go through in order to get it, like Dark Ward and Disjunction, are all very useful. I <3 darkness tree.

I would rather put the 2 pts from Premonition and max out Charge Mastery or Shroud of Darkness though. I already explained why i think premonition is useless and unless there is a large popularity of builds where ppl only put 1 or 2 pts into their stealth skill rather than maxing it. For Charge Mastery, it improves your Dark Charge, and buffs your resistances.

[guardian17]

(10-18-2011 05:21 AM)Rising Wrote:  I agree, the Darkness tree is just too good to pass up. Blood of Sith is the gem here, and all the little trinkets that you need to go through in order to get it, like Dark Ward and Disjunction, are all very useful. I <3 darkness tree.

I would rather put the 2 pts from Premonition and max out Charge Mastery or Shroud of Darkness though. I already explained why i think premonition is useless and unless there is a large popularity of builds where ppl only put 1 or 2 pts into their stealth skill rather than maxing it. For Charge Mastery, it improves your Dark Charge, and buffs your resistances.

I already max out charge mastery. Premonition is more valuable then shroud of darkness IMO because 2% defense and better stealth detection is better than 2% endurance or any of the other talents in that same tier.

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Here is my favorite build:

http://torguild.net/calculator/sith-inqu...0000000000

The reason I like this build so much is because it synergizes really well with itself, and gives the Assassin plenty of AOE damage through wither and dark charge discharge. Most other assassin builds have very little AOE damage. Here is how the build generally plays:

You start in stealth, sprint at your opponent and open with a maul. You then use spike to stun them, and then use wither and dark charge discharge to debuff them and deal moderate damage. Youll still have plenty of energy at this point thanks to dark embrace. You then stun them again with electrocute and then unload with thrash, shock, and force lightning. Once your energy gets low and the stun wears off, you use resillience and at the end of resillience you use your vanish ability. Once your energy recharges to full, you reopen and repeat the above combo. If things get hairy you can use deflection, or sprint to a better position. Its an excellent playstyle, very fun and very effective.

It is hard to do much damage in warzones as a darkness build unless you go 31 points deep for wither and dark charge discharge buffs (AOE damage). Otherwise, darkness builds lack damage and have little AOE. If you go hybrid and get death field and raze, you can do very good damage also. Darkness/Madness is a strong hybrid, but Darkness/Deception lacks AOE damage and feels pretty gimped. I recommend either full darkness with 3 in deception and 7 in madness, or the hybrid: 22 darkness, 3 deception, 16 madness.

[Vilken]

I thought Obfuscation will improve mouvement speed by 15% instead of 5%. Is it still the case ?

If yes, is it not usefull in PvP ?

Too much possibility it's so hard to find a good build...

[guardian17]

(10-18-2011 09:42 PM)Vilken Wrote:  I thought Obfuscation will improve mouvement speed by 15% instead of 5%. Is it still the case ?

If yes, is it not usefull in PvP ?

Too much possibility it's so hard to find a good build...

Obfuscation does increase movement speed by 15% in combat, but it doesnt effect your out of combat sprint speed (every class gets out of combat sprint). I find it to be a nice talent, but not as good as the opposing talents in the madness tree which directly increase damage output.

[Piree]

(10-19-2011 01:19 AM)guardian17 Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 09:42 PM)Vilken Wrote:  I thought Obfuscation will improve mouvement speed by 15% instead of 5%. Is it still the case ?

If yes, is it not usefull in PvP ?

Too much possibility it's so hard to find a good build...

Obfuscation does increase movement speed by 15% in combat, but it doesnt effect your out of combat sprint speed (every class gets out of combat sprint). I find it to be a nice talent, but not as good as the opposing talents in the madness tree which directly increase damage output.

Its 15% in stealth, except for the vanishing ability, u can't go stealth in combat.
I don't see how it increases movement speed in combat.

[guardian17]

(10-19-2011 02:51 AM)Piree Wrote:  

(10-19-2011 01:19 AM)guardian17 Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 09:42 PM)Vilken Wrote:  I thought Obfuscation will improve mouvement speed by 15% instead of 5%. Is it still the case ?

If yes, is it not usefull in PvP ?

Too much possibility it's so hard to find a good build...

Obfuscation does increase movement speed by 15% in combat, but it doesnt effect your out of combat sprint speed (every class gets out of combat sprint). I find it to be a nice talent, but not as good as the opposing talents in the madness tree which directly increase damage output.

Its 15% in stealth, except for the vanishing ability, u can't go stealth in combat.
I don't see how it increases movement speed in combat.

They changed it to 15% movement speed at all times. It does not effect your sprint speed though.

[Piree]

Then why does it say 15% in stealth on torguild calculator?
Thought it had the latest build.

[Brandyn]

(10-18-2011 05:41 AM)guardian17 Wrote:  I recommend either full darkness with 3 in deception and 7 in madness, or the hybrid: 22 darkness, 3 deception, 16 madness.

Guardian,
Would you mind posting a link to the hybrid spec you like best so I can see where you would suggest putting the points? Something like THIS?

[Piree]

(10-19-2011 05:45 AM)Brandyn Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 05:41 AM)guardian17 Wrote:  I recommend either full darkness with 3 in deception and 7 in madness, or the hybrid: 22 darkness, 3 deception, 16 madness.

Guardian,
Would you mind posting a link to the hybrid spec you like best so I can see where you would suggest putting the points? Something like THIS?

I assume it's this build: http://torguild.net/calculator/sith-inqu...2001000000
(Maybe not for the Shroud of Darkness), as I don't see any other points better spent than those in Madness tree.

[guardian17]

(10-19-2011 05:18 AM)Piree Wrote:  Then why does it say 15% in stealth on torguild calculator?
Thought it had the latest build.

Because they made a mistake

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(10-19-2011 06:17 AM)Piree Wrote:  

(10-19-2011 05:45 AM)Brandyn Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 05:41 AM)guardian17 Wrote:  I recommend either full darkness with 3 in deception and 7 in madness, or the hybrid: 22 darkness, 3 deception, 16 madness.

Guardian,
Would you mind posting a link to the hybrid spec you like best so I can see where you would suggest putting the points? Something like THIS?

I assume it's this build: http://torguild.net/calculator/sith-inqu...2001000000
(Maybe not for the Shroud of Darkness), as I don't see any other points better spent than those in Madness tree.

Yes thats my favorite hybrid build, but I like 31 darkness, 3 deception, 7 madness better.