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[ARCHIVE] 1.1.5 Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium
03-30-2012, 03:43 AM (This post was last modified: 03-30-2012 03:46 AM by Venaliter.)
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RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium
(03-29-2012 10:40 PM)Petrus Wrote:  Anyways, as this forum is more or less aimed at PvE (we do have PvP forums where we can discuss this more in detail) let me talk about consumption in 1.2

The truth is... I like it.

*The key to remember here, and the reason I'm ok with this change, is that boss fights in 1.2 are VERY different. They're all mechanic based, and they're all about people doing what they are supposed to do. Healers can no longer carry a raid by powering through mistakes. Frankly, I'm fine with this.

Completely agree. It's boring when you can Reviv through all the boss mechanics. Fights should be complicated then that. I agree Sorcerors needed a nerf, but I shocked at which nerf they actually applied.

(03-29-2012 10:40 PM)Petrus Wrote:  The one place where I see the sorcerer extremely lacking, and the one thing that might kill the class for me in the end - is our lack of emergency heals.

Force Bending should have been left as it was. But I suspect they wanted to exactly what they accomplished; end class stacking. Sorcerors really have no catch up if they fall behind. None. a Pair of sorcerers can't as effectively heal in an 8 man as a pair of one-ofs could.

(03-29-2012 10:40 PM)Petrus Wrote:  Btw - the one real issue with consumption is the scaling. The more HP we have, the more it hurts. I stopped using an End stim in progression - though this problem is only going to get worse. We have 650 (600 if we lose our 4 set in T2 gear) force, and that never changes. Our HP continues to go up though, and every extra point of HP we have is more healing that we're required to do.

I would define the issue with Consumption as three-fold, most of which we've touched on.

1) Self Damaging mechanics don't work in PvP or PvE encounters with 90%+ AoE spikes.
2) Consumption damage increases with Endurance, but Force Regen does not.

3) While they are striving to bring HPS in balance (a noble goal), a healer that takes 20% more damage but has the same HPS as the other two classes is extremely flawed design. There's a contradiction there.

Not to mention it just feels awkward to most players to have to heal themselves so aggressively every fight. Normally, you pair off self-damage with self- passive healing.

I wish they had have nerfed us in a more elegant way.

Flat out removing the Consumption mechanic and re-adding "Meditation" as in Beta would have been fine.

Changing Force Surge to only proc every X seconds for Y force would have been okay.

Changing Force Surge to something like "Innervate crits apply a buff, "Whatever" causing your Consumption to deal 50/100% less damage, but to restore only 25%/50% less force.

And these are just off the top of my head.

Frankly, the balance changes in 1.2 make very little sense; were badly implemented, simple "knee-jerk" reactions or conspicuously absent. I'm just not a happy camper this patch.
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RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-01-2011, 01:03 PM
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RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-02-2011, 08:06 AM
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RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-03-2011, 06:22 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-03-2011, 09:48 AM
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RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-04-2011, 08:07 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-04-2011, 08:59 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-05-2011, 12:41 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-05-2011, 01:04 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-05-2011, 01:42 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-05-2011, 11:33 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-05-2011, 06:07 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-05-2011, 07:05 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Piree - 08-09-2011, 08:09 PM
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