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[ARCHIVE] 1.1.5 Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium
03-18-2012, 10:43 AM (This post was last modified: 03-18-2012 10:43 AM by Kaedis.)
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RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium
Quote:Someone please check my math and logic, but if you are running with around 18,500 HP in raid gear, Noble Sacrifice/Consumption takes 2775 HP with no points in Valiance/Dark Resilience. If you put 2 puts into that talent, you can reduce this to 2405 HP.

In return, you gain 48 force (600 x .08). So you need to find a way to heal yourself for at least 2405 HP, and up to 2775 HP depending on talent choices, for less than 48 force to make Noble Sacrifice/Consumption force-positive.

Based on Arulan's spreadsheet, Rejuvenate/Resurgence will heal for over 3000 HP on average in raid gear when including crits, and it only costs 28 force. Because the CD is only 6 seconds, and the effect lasts 15 seconds when talented, it should be pretty easy to keep the armor benefits and HoT active on your tank, while still casting Rejuv/Resurgence on yourself once every 12 seconds to heal yourself up and keep Noble Sacrifice/Consumption force-positive.

In addition, I'm not factoring in the 4/8% improvement to heals on yourself from Pain Bearer/Empty Body, which would improve this calculation if you put talent points there.

The problem is, Rejuv has a 15 second duration, whereas with normal usage (with the 2-set PvE bonus), you'll be using Consumption every 7.5 seconds. That gives you a net deficit of around 2300 HP per 15 seconds in BIS gear, assuming you're keeping Resurgence active on yourself at all times. 2300 HP is around 40% of an Innervate in the same gear, meaning 1 Innervate (your most efficient spell) on yourself every ~40 seconds makes up the difference, at a net cost of 21 Force per 7.5 seconds (so Consumption becomes a net +27 Force). However, this also loses you an extra GCD every 8.5 seconds on average compared to current, which cuts throughput.

If you instead only heal yourself with Innervate, you'd need to cast it on yourself roughly once every 15 seconds (Innervate is roughly twice the health cost of Consumption in BIS gear), which loses you an average of 1 GCD every 7.5 seconds compared to current, but boosts the net gain from Consumption to 29.5.

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RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-01-2011, 12:30 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-01-2011, 01:03 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-02-2011, 07:11 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-02-2011, 08:06 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-02-2011, 08:31 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-02-2011, 11:04 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-02-2011, 11:40 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-01-2011, 07:46 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-02-2011, 11:52 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-02-2011, 10:12 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-03-2011, 06:22 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-03-2011, 09:48 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Pred - 08-03-2011, 09:48 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-03-2011, 10:16 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-04-2011, 08:06 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-04-2011, 08:07 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-04-2011, 08:59 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-05-2011, 12:41 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-05-2011, 01:04 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-05-2011, 01:42 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-05-2011, 11:33 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-05-2011, 06:07 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-05-2011, 07:05 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Piree - 08-09-2011, 08:09 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Piree - 08-09-2011, 10:02 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-09-2011, 10:36 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-10-2011, 01:50 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Piree - 08-10-2011, 05:04 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Pred - 08-11-2011, 08:39 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-10-2011, 10:44 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-11-2011, 04:20 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-11-2011, 07:03 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Caketown - 08-12-2011, 08:17 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-15-2011, 12:19 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-15-2011, 12:34 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Kaladris - 08-14-2011, 11:10 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-15-2011, 01:45 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-16-2011, 11:55 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Pred - 08-17-2011, 12:53 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-17-2011, 02:01 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-17-2011, 02:12 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Pred - 08-17-2011, 02:50 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-17-2011, 02:59 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Pred - 08-17-2011, 06:16 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-17-2011, 05:59 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-17-2011, 08:42 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Feyas - 08-18-2011, 04:23 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-18-2011, 06:20 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Feyas - 08-18-2011, 10:38 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Alratan - 08-19-2011, 12:58 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Feyas - 08-19-2011, 04:06 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Pred - 08-18-2011, 10:58 PM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - Pred - 08-19-2011, 07:01 AM
RE: Healing Talent Dissection - metaspy - 08-28-2011, 03:16 PM
RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium - leo - 01-25-2012, 02:55 AM
RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium - leo - 01-25-2012, 03:46 AM
RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium - leo - 01-25-2012, 03:06 AM
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RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium - leo - 01-27-2012, 07:43 AM
RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium - Psi - 03-05-2012, 06:54 AM
RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium - Psi - 03-06-2012, 05:05 AM
RE: Sith Sorcerer Healing Compendium - Kaedis - 03-18-2012 10:43 AM
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RE: Healing Abilities Comparison - Alratan - 08-12-2011, 08:38 PM
RE: Healing Abilities Comparison - metaspy - 08-13-2011, 02:31 AM
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