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Tank Abilities List
10-19-2011, 10:02 AM
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RE: Tank Abilities List
(10-19-2011 03:15 AM)Masterkiller Wrote:  Oilslick - Looks incredibly powerful when affecting multiple targets. The percentage may be less than the Warrior and Inquisitor but will be superior in certain situations. The important question here is "Will a BH tank die because they have 20% ADDITIONAL avoidance instead of 50% additional avoidance" and I don't think that situation is very likely. Unless the 50% avoidance pushes a hit off the table, there is still the chance to receive string of hits in a row, the chance is just less.

The counter-point to that is attack speed. Avoidance is an excellent defensive tool against fast attacking opponents. If there is an encounter where a single target opponent's attack speed increases for a duration of time, I would obviously prefer 50% additional avoidance over 20%. It still goes to the question, would a BH die due to having 30% less avoidance once every 3 minutes and I have a hard time believing that to be the case. Personally I would rather have Oilslick on a 1minute cooldown and raid saving potential then a 50% avoidance on a very long 3 min cooldown.

Yeah, I think we're mostly on the same page here. I'm sure Oilslick is only 20% avoidance because it:

A.) Effects more than one target;
B.) Is not a buff, but a debuff, hence it benefits more than just the caster.

If that's what they want to give us for our 31 point talent, then I'll gladly accept a ranged AoE avoidance debuff on a short cooldown. What I'm arguing is that it encourages the BH to be an off-tank instead of a main tank, since Juggernaut can get the same benefits from his off-tank BH, while still having his own, self-only cooldowns when needed. It's not an either/or case, it's that you can have the best of both worlds, at the cost of making the Jugg the main tank and the BH the default off-tank.

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Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 07-06-2011, 06:50 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - SlimX - 10-19-2011, 04:01 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-20-2011, 02:36 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Athens428 - 10-20-2011, 04:57 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-20-2011, 05:26 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Verce - 10-20-2011, 06:56 AM
RE: RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-20-2011, 10:52 AM
RE: RE: Tank Abilities List - Athens428 - 10-20-2011, 11:35 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Masterkiller - 10-21-2011, 04:23 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-21-2011, 09:32 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-30-2011, 02:22 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-31-2011, 01:18 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 10-31-2011, 04:26 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-31-2011, 10:43 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 11-07-2011, 04:24 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 11-02-2011, 12:29 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 11-07-2011, 09:27 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 11-07-2011, 09:35 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Kaedis - 11-07-2011, 03:51 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 11-07-2011, 04:05 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Alratan - 11-08-2011, 01:33 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Kaedis - 11-08-2011, 04:54 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 11-09-2011, 06:11 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 11-09-2011, 10:44 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 11-09-2011, 11:03 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 11-09-2011, 11:36 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Kaedis - 11-10-2011, 03:06 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Alratan - 11-17-2011, 11:43 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 11-18-2011, 01:35 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 11-18-2011, 08:37 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 11-19-2011, 07:53 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Alratan - 11-19-2011, 07:23 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 11-20-2011, 01:49 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Pantelijus - 11-20-2011, 04:32 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Alratan - 11-21-2011, 08:49 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 11-22-2011, 09:52 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 11-22-2011, 01:42 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Alratan - 11-22-2011, 06:15 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 11-23-2011, 08:05 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 11-23-2011, 07:38 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Alratan - 11-23-2011, 07:40 AM
Tank Abilities List - Masterkiller - 07-06-2011, 06:50 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - ugru - 07-10-2011, 07:24 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Kahuna - 09-19-2011, 10:21 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Alratan - 09-20-2011, 03:59 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 09-20-2011, 11:52 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 09-21-2011, 01:20 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 09-21-2011, 01:40 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 09-22-2011, 12:59 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 09-24-2011, 08:57 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 09-25-2011, 06:51 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-01-2011, 02:34 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ften - 10-04-2011, 03:00 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-04-2011, 03:43 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ften - 10-05-2011, 04:23 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ezmode - 10-05-2011, 04:43 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Grey - 10-05-2011, 05:22 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ezmode - 10-05-2011, 06:21 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ften - 10-05-2011, 10:43 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-05-2011, 12:37 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ezmode - 10-05-2011, 01:00 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ften - 10-05-2011, 03:38 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ezmode - 10-05-2011, 04:04 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Masterkiller - 10-05-2011, 11:19 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-06-2011, 08:29 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Grey - 10-07-2011, 05:41 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Freehugs - 10-07-2011, 06:23 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 10-13-2011, 11:56 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Alratan - 10-14-2011, 03:19 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Pantelijus - 10-13-2011, 01:26 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 10-14-2011, 12:28 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 10-14-2011, 12:16 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Ften - 10-17-2011, 08:33 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-18-2011, 02:06 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Masterkiller - 10-19-2011, 03:15 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-19-2011 10:02 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 10-19-2011, 11:16 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-19-2011, 12:17 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 10-19-2011, 01:00 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-19-2011, 02:20 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - GWARRR - 10-19-2011, 03:13 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Verce - 10-20-2011, 01:58 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 10-19-2011, 05:05 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - SlimX - 10-18-2011, 02:58 PM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-19-2011, 12:06 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Gorodetski - 10-19-2011, 02:04 AM
RE: Tank Abilities List - Mesrith - 10-19-2011, 02:31 AM

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