Immortal|Guardian PvE End Game Tanking Compendium - 1.2

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(06-06-2012 02:18 PM)Omadon Wrote:  

(06-06-2012 06:45 AM)jamaal Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 02:15 PM)Omadon Wrote:  Hi. Long-time lurker here; big fan of all the work the contributors do on this site. I'd like to add something small to it if I may. My raid group is currently stuck on Zorn and Toth in Denova HM. We had a good run this past Tuesday and got them both under 10% multiple times, just couldn't quite seal the deal.

Anyways, we must've ran this same encounter for close to two and a half hours. Same mob, same group, roughly 4 mins of action each fight. So, I gathered up my combat logs and threw them into a Google doc.

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B69sMoH...1NHbk1mV2s

It should be enough to make a pretty good sample, especially as each encounter is ceterus peribus (all things equal). I'm in a hybrid spec that I just started trying maybe 2 weeks ago (standard 17/22/2 with no Shien). I'm tempted to switch back to full Immortal just so we can compare the performance between the two builds via two large sample sets and constant groups (as I imagine we'll be stuck again for a while).

Please do what you all do with these combat logs. I intend to go through them myself over the weekend. I hope they help!

Omadon

Toth and Zorn. You will kill yourself if you Force scream and put a DOT on then get Fearful.

Thank you for the advice. I know the Fearful debuff reflects damage; but the DOT from Force Scream really isn't anything to write home about. It might crit for 65 damage on a single tick. I haven't seen it reflect enough damage on me to worry about it. And I usually try and cast FS right before they jump to proc the shield. Then it's Enraged Defense, Taunt, Saber Throw and Force Charge to get back into it.

Here's a cleaned up version of those logs on torparse. Wish I had found this before that first post. Oh well c'est la vie.

T&Z HM Logs Hybrid Jug

I'd love to see a full Immortal Jug's log for the same encounter. At the time I had 2 pieces of BH gear, rest full Rakata.

Listen to his help and read up on how fearful works. Fearful does not reflect damage, it hits you for a set amount. When discussing Lethality/Dirty Fighting snipers/gunslingers in this fight, the guys in that section of the forums verified this.

Quote:Zorn's fearful debuff is not a damage reflection. Every time you hit him you will take 6k damage. A tick for 330 damage will deal 6k to you. One auto attack will do 6k to you.
This is why they're bad for that fight.

Im sure you can do this fight without using Force Scream... but you might want to go back to full Immortal, since that spec does not have the DOT.