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RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS - Denzoh - 04-11-2012 01:11 AM
Sorry to double-post like this.. But if you wouldn't mind sharing it, what Crystal-version do you effectively use? Expertise or is it Power you use?
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS - Pander Beers - 04-11-2012 12:15 PM
Well, I use the Battlemaster lightsaber, so the answer is Expertise
I'm assuming you're looking to buy one of the white crystals before they get removed in two days!For PvP, always Expertise (with respect to diminishing returns), but the DR scale is changing in 1.2. I'm going to be looking for a proper target for the new Expertise amount, but my understanding is that we want as much Expertise as we can.
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS - Denzoh - 04-11-2012 05:30 PM
Indeed Jeanne.
Thank you!
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS - Skroting - 04-11-2012 06:57 PM
in regards to your reply, that's exactly what i'm thinking, going for a specc based arround soresu form, and trying to go with a more tanky playstyle. To bad twats on the official forums still cry about "jugger damage gets nerfed to the ground" etc, instead of understanding how to properly play their class following the updates in gu 1.2 : p
Well the jugger i mentioned earlier is a very good player, but i met him recently and topped him using your setup, so i won't claim him to be superior to you in those regards, but if you see Janro from Bloodworthy, you could make up your own mind ^^
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS - Pander Beers - 04-12-2012 04:24 AM
Skroting, from my point of view, there are few things sweeter than hearing someone using my guide to wreck shop on someone they used to look up to.
I ask everyone that's checking this guide to give me a few days, as being a GM - I have some time critical items to sort out going into the release of 1.2. However, I will be trying to update the guide little by little as I can.
I'm aiming for Sunday to have my guide at least updated for gear optimization.
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS - Denzoh - 04-12-2012 04:50 PM
If it's done within a 2-week window of the 1.2 update being released, I will not complain Jeanne.
But after all, we're easily able to assess, assume and attempt our own solutions, changes and fixes. We can't just rely on you for this. 
But please, do put it up once you have it done Jeanne. My Jugg only hit 43 before 1.2 updated, I hope Rage won't get hit too hard now, into a Gear-Dependant role, cuz then I have to respec my Grind-suit. xD
Found this tree to be very fun and -extremely- effective to level as.
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS - Pander Beers - 04-12-2012 11:11 PM
I may or may not be getting back into this later, but the dev team pulling ranked warzones and premade 8s took a lot out of this PvP'r. I'm out :/
Alratan, the site owner, is getting someone else to step in and take care of the guide, I believe. If anything, the guide just needs updating on numbers. The core of it is still the same. If I come back later, I'll do a total revamp of my baby. Otherwise here's a quick shot for yall
Optimization
Level 56 Modifications
Mod
Battlemaster Vindicator's Boots - 875 warzone commendations
29 Endurance
48 Strength
37 Power
Enhancement
Battlemaster Vindicator's Greaves - 975 warzone commendations
24 Endurance
37 Power
51 Surge
Level 61 Modifications
Mod
War Hero Vindicator's Handgear
Requirement: BM Vindicator Handgear and 2k Ranked WZ Comm
51 strength
32 endurance
39 power
30 exp
Enhancement
War Hero Force-Mystic's Gloves
Requirement: BM Force-Mystic Gloves and 2k Ranked WZ Comm
27 endurance
30 exp
41 power
53 surge
You want these guys
Good luck out there!
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS - Skroting - 04-13-2012 12:04 AM
Noo don't leave us here in the dark, what are we to do with the upcoming changes : p
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS (1.1.5) - Khal'Drogo - 04-18-2012 07:38 AM
I'm very sad to see you go Jeanne. I've recently been playing my Juggernaut again and I wanted to stimulate some conversation. Since 1.2 I have some questions:
- What does everyone's spec look like these days? Here's what I've been trying http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#1010MZcMRZGrobdfRrcz.1
- Where does Ravage fit in your rotation? (I'm finding myself using this ability a lot these days)
- What is BiS now? (love the new augment slot in our main hand)
- Should I replace my power crystal with an expertise crystal?
Overall, I'm fairly happy with 1.2. I thought we'd get hit a lot harder with the nerf bat, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
RE: Guardian/Juggernaut - Focus/Rage DPS (1.1.5) - Skroting - 04-18-2012 09:47 AM
1. Been trying to go for a more tanky setup, with using the Soresu form and keeping up guard on my healers etc. The specc looks like;
http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#500zZfzMZGr0ddfRMfz.1
I find this to be very helpfull, atleast since i feel the TTK has gone down alot, having the extra survivability is very nice. Added bonus of being able to throw guard on a healer for added longevity on their part, giving me more healing in return (arguement to be made on wether or not i'd need as much without guard ofc ;p), and the extra selfheal through our new ability.
2. As you were saying, i've been using it alot more recently aswell, having gotten crits with the single slash of our master strike high enough to rival a few of my smashes, i really feel like this is an ability worth using, but only if i can be sure it will land. (enemy slowed/rooted and pref with myself white-barred)
3. I won't speculate much on BiS, since i never reached BiS pre 1.2 either, just barely managed to get myself to rank 61 before the patch went live. Anyhow, Jeanne listed the best mods and enhancements, so i can't imagine anything else than those in all slots, while getting the Might Augment in every augment slot.
4. Again, never got far on theorizing on gear before the patch, but for the moment i'm going with expertise
