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RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - Malfurius - 02-24-2012 01:04 PM
Had a few questions concerning gearing-
I'm not sure if its this post or the lightning but there was talk of pulling mods out of Operative gear for Power/ Crit enhancements but then another person was saying Crit/ Surge.. Has the debate been settled on this? Also is the exceptional Rakata trinkets better then the matrix shard or just the power one and matrix shard? Ty in advance... O last question since I dont have excel is Lightning or hybrid madness higher dps in ops?
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - frmorrison - 02-25-2012 01:26 AM
(02-24-2012 01:04 PM)Malfurius Wrote: Had a few questions concerning gearing-
I'm not sure if its this post or the lightning but there was talk of pulling mods out of Operative gear for Power/ Crit enhancements but then another person was saying Crit/ Surge.. Has the debate been settled on this? Also is the exceptional Rakata trinkets better then the matrix shard or just the power one and matrix shard? Ty in advance... O last question since I dont have excel is Lightning or hybrid madness higher dps in ops?
Sadly, Power/Crit doesn't exist. It may be a good idea to pull the Power/Surge out of the IA Enforcer helm/gloves on both Champion/Columni, they have 34 Power/48 Surge.
Here is the ranking, taken from Simcraft thread:
Internal/Elemental Proc Relic from HM KP
The Rakata Power Relic with augment (you need artifice to craft).
Matrix shard Relic
Kinetic Proc Relic from HM KP
The Rakata Power Relic without augment
Champion/Columni Power Relic
e: fixed the order
Hybrid Madness has the most dps currently, that may change in patch 1.2.
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - CaseyTheRetard - 02-25-2012 01:59 AM
(02-25-2012 01:26 AM)frmorrison Wrote: Here is the ranking, taken from Simcraft thread:
This should be:
- Internal/Elemental Proc relic from HM KP
- The Rakata Power Relic with augment (you need artifice to craft).
- Matrix shard Relic
- The Rakata Power Relic without augment
In fact, some idiot demonstrated that pairing the proc relics was the best possible DPS before someone reminded him that they share an internal cooldown and thus can't be used together.
(02-24-2012 10:20 AM)Acaadi Wrote: I'm curious if the 2 piece champion set bonus would be more of a DPS increase as it lowers the cool down of CD/MC by 1.5 seconds.
Set bonus analysis is in this post. I should have posted in this thread instead of the Simulationcraft thread, apologies.
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - fetta - 02-26-2012 11:56 AM
I generally pvp but have recently started raiding with my guild and wondered if my 19/22 spec would be okay for end game raiding or should i change to something like the 13/28.
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - Kaedis - 02-26-2012 04:23 PM
Quote:I generally pvp but have recently started raiding with my guild and wondered if my 19/22 spec would be okay for end game raiding or should i change to something like the 13/28.
A traditional 19/22 spec is going to lose a lot of dps (probably 10-15% minimum) compared to 13/28. Whether you can use it in PvE, however, is entirely up to your guild and how difficult of content you're planning on doing (and how willing they are to carry).
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - havoc - 02-27-2012 12:20 AM
How would you rank expertise into the equation?
I got two orange pieces, bracer and belt. But considering changing them out for pvp gear(mods from other pvp gear, sadly havent gotten hold of any armoring yet. Quite hard for a non raider. strictly pvp here
. To give an example, before the change i got 472 expertise, 9,8%.the stats they give
end127
wp 196
crit10
power 34
the pvp items give, champion fmaster bracer and stalker belt(i wanted to keep end/wp as high as possible)
exp 92
end 112
wp 154
crit 10
pow 10
so 92 expertise(went to 11,08 %) for
end 15
wp 42
pow 24
I guess if i get some better armorings(maybe future patches?) they might end up better?
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - fetta - 02-28-2012 03:27 AM
Check the Ilum daily vender, you should be able to find Armoring mods there for 8 comendations.
Also I went with the 13/28 spec and noticed a big difference overall, but was wondering with the new patch and the one coming up am i still okay with the 3 master and 2 mystic set or should I go all master?
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - Matin - 02-28-2012 09:25 PM
Hi ,
1st of all thank you for a very educating thread.
I have 2 questions,
1. Is there a calculation that shows best gear for PVP? I feel latly that a mix of PVP / PVE seems to increase dps in WZ is this correct?
2. I saw the list of priority for relics, but is the crit relic inferior to the power 1?
Thank you.
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - Spren - 02-29-2012 02:55 AM
Matin,
I haven't seen a list of best PvP gear but it may exist.
The power one is much better because critical rating has diminishing returns, and so the better geared you are the less you will get from that crit relic. Power has no diminishing returns.
RE: Madness/Balance Sorcerer DPS Compendium - frmorrison - 02-29-2012 03:13 AM
(02-28-2012 09:25 PM)Matin Wrote: 1. Is there a calculation that shows best gear for PVP? I feel latly that a mix of PVP / PVE seems to increase dps in WZ is this correct?
2. I saw the list of priority for relics, but is the crit relic inferior to the power 1?
Thank you.
There is a PvP thread in the PvP forum. A mix of PvP/PvE is best, since after ~550 expertise the stat starts to get weaker due to DR. Note this is assuming equal item level, like a Champion piece (136) is always better than a Tionese piece (124), unless there are augments involved, then it isn't an easy comparison.
Crit/Surge will always be weaker than Power due to DR, especially now that Surge has been weakened.