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RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - lfernandes - 03-20-2012 06:41 AM
(03-20-2012 05:44 AM)Czechsauce Wrote: Whats your recommendation on def rating and shield/absorb rating for tanking HM's? Having a hard time getting to 30% def rating, barely scratching 24%. All my armor is modifiable Im using mostly advanced 22/23 mods with def rating as its main stat. I feel Im taking too much damage because of the lack of shield/absorb rating. Should i still keep stacking def rating until i reach 30%?
I am having this problem also!
I have full rakata gear except my saber...every other piece I'm wearing is the Rakata War Leader set, and my defense is about 25-25%, shield is 24% and absorb is about 35%...
This is pretty much maxed def unless I take lesser pieces of gear with augments or crit crafted implants/earpieces that have higher stats. According to the chart, there is almost no way to get to 30% and even at 24% I'm hitting DR pretty hard.
halp!?
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - EThompson03 - 03-20-2012 10:37 AM
This was an AWESOME guide. Thanks so much for the assistance. Made tanking extremely easy.
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - Sturrm - 03-20-2012 11:51 AM
You wont get 30% in 1.1 (who knows if the same applies to 1.2). Stop aiming for that and start working on your shield chance and absorption value.
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - Cain - 03-20-2012 06:44 PM
Hi, like Sturmm said you should focus on your shield / absorb rating. I'm not saying it's your only choice, just that it's efficient for the encounters in this game.
Before even discover this website, I had a feeling that defense wasn't a so high priority, at first I thought so but I quickly realize it wasn't so true, at least in my opinion. Btw I play a juggernaut main tank.
So I started to change mods and follow advices from gamers (only here) and from my experience, I try to stay around 22% defense and 40/42 % shield / absorb, even if I have to change and put some older mods, at least I used to do that some weeks ago.
Look my answer on this post so you can see more details
http://sithwarrior.com/forums/Thread-Jug-Tank-Gearing-Improvements?page=4
And if you want to see an example, here's a fight on Karagga nightmare, with rakata gear (except gloves and chest, dunno why it doesn't want to drop ^^). You will see that I'm not taking so much damage, except on some mistakes from myself, but I'm just using one cooldown during this fight (except trinket and biochem)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9o4KMKCagI&context=C41d04a4ADvjVQa1PpcFODZK_X8GOHGGo158WCHc0KJn9MqB7ZWBs=
(sorry, we've just upload it quickly just for us, so the title sucks for now ^^)
Again, sorry for my poor english guys.
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - Coriolis - 03-21-2012 12:04 AM
There's alot of misconceptions here.. first off the 30% is from rating only, not the total (you get 11% from base+talents, and another 6% after retaliation). So no one is anywhere even close to the "cap" for rating, and in any case it's an asymptotic limit, not a cap.
As far what ratings you want, basically def>abs>shield, but for exact distributions as a function of total stat budget, there's a bunch of good posts on the game mechanics forums.
Having said that.. in the current content I'd say it doesn't matter much. The only fight that can be hard because of tank damage is the 4th KP boss, and even that isn't too bad.
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - jmwtech - 03-23-2012 12:45 AM
Looking at the stats listed in this thread I'd love to see how you guys have filled out the mod/enhancement slots.
Anyone care to create a character on http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character to show us how you obtained thoses stats?
Here is how my gear is currently setup. It's not ideal as I'm still working to get better mods:
http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/08725adb-b9a4-42ba-9d97-a1a8b63fd56b
Completely unbuffed I'm at the following stats:
Health: 20130
Armor: 7607
Dmg Reduc: 47.33%
Def Chance: 22.41%
Shield Chance: 39.64%
Shield Absorb: 36.9%
I did what alot of people did in first reading this and blindly tried to obtain 30% Defense Chance. It's just not going to happen even with full 1.3. I've since been re-modding my 1.3 set to end up with the above stats.
And yeah the only thing that hits remotely hard in the game is the Forman Crusher and the end of the jarg and sorno fight on 16 man hard and nightmare. The rest is pretty much cake as far as hard hits.
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - Sturrm - 03-23-2012 11:46 AM
Here I am completely unbuffed:
http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/a593d30a-8da5-40da-b43e-a42ab98b561f
HP: 20100
Armor: 7647
Dmg Reduc: 47.45%
Def Chance: 20.83%
Shield Chance: 37.27%
Shield Absorp: 33.16%
Str: 1353
Ive had bad luck getting some more shield/absorption enhancements. WIth Rakata being reitemized in 1.2, this might not be a problem anymore.
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - Cain - 03-23-2012 09:20 PM
Hi there
So now with full rakata and one biochem implant :
Health: 21389.5 (with just Hunter's boon, not stim)
Armor Rating: 7647.0
Damage Reduction: 47.45%
Defense Chance: 21.51% (always more with my biochem stim)
Shield Chance: 39.29%
Shield Absorption: 39.49%
If you want to see how I manage to obtain this stats just take a look at my character
http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/5ecba48f-66b2-4164-95fb-27db3131c9bd
I don't want to go under 21/22 % defense for now, anyway no problem AT ALL to tank every encounter in NM with this
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - Diomed - 03-24-2012 01:17 AM
Well this thread has just turned into epeen yardstick fest. I'll bite.
Health 21001.6
Armor Rating 7647.0
Damage Reduction 51.45%
Defense Chance 23.12%
Shield Chance 41.09%
Shield Absorption 40.63%
http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/23e3e8eb-26fc-45f2-89ca-239d1be552c4
At least until 1.2 nerfs my hp! Yay!
RE: Immortal | Defense Compendium | A Tank's Guide To The Galaxy - Kaedis - 03-24-2012 02:56 AM
Guys, this is a theorycrafting thread. We don't care what stats you have personally.
If you want to note specifically the theorycrafting basis you used for a particular stat arrangement, or a particular module choice on gear, fine, but just posting your stats and an AMR link is worthless and thus against our forum rules (doesn't contribute to the discussion).