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RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - LagunaD - 01-05-2012 02:13 PM
(01-04-2012 09:32 PM)Sol Wrote: All attacks are considered tech attacks.
This is incorrect.
Flurry of Bolts, Quick Shot, Charged Burst and Blaster Volley are ranged abilities (and benefit from Aim).
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - Sol - 01-05-2012 03:31 PM
My apologies, all our scattergun/Vibro attacks are tech attacks. I didn't worry about the other because you're never really going to be using them. Flurry of bolts is useless and only for regen, blaster volley is for AE attacks and quick shot is situational at best. As such, at no point is aim going to ever be prioritised over cunning (which I believe was where the argument was heading).
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - Broesel - 01-05-2012 09:19 PM
Thanks, it was just to clarify if it is neccessary to get the +aim datacrons.
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - Storm - 01-05-2012 09:48 PM
Hey there. I was searching the forums but couldn't see if this had been adressed already. The Vibroknifes have something in their tooltip saying that this (offhand-)weapon is only be used by some abilities. While logic suggests that these are only the knife-related skills, I'd like to know if there is currently any source where I can search for formulas backing this theory up and - more importantly and I hope those who are already deep in the numbers can answer that - where exactly do I get the formulas that are responsible for ability damage enabling me to see which factors are counted into the damage calculation of e.g. Shiv. Are there any at all? Because most of the datamining-networks like TORhead and KnoTOR haven't their formulas up yet.
And lastly, my most frustrating search I've done before asking: Is there any estimate on the damage absorbed by Shield Probe in numbers?
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - CaseyTheRetard - 01-06-2012 03:22 AM
(01-05-2012 09:48 PM)Storm Wrote: And lastly, my most frustrating search I've done before asking: Is there any estimate on the damage absorbed by Shield Probe in numbers?
You should have searched the last post in the Q&A thread.
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - Storm - 01-06-2012 05:26 AM
Yeah, I suppose so. My fail, sorry and big thanks!
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - LagunaD - 01-06-2012 06:29 PM
(01-05-2012 09:48 PM)Storm Wrote: Hey there. I was searching the forums but couldn't see if this had been adressed already. The Vibroknifes have something in their tooltip saying that this (offhand-)weapon is only be used by some abilities. While logic suggests that these are only the knife-related skills, I'd like to know if there is currently any source where I can search for formulas backing this theory up and - more importantly and I hope those who are already deep in the numbers can answer that - where exactly do I get the formulas that are responsible for ability damage enabling me to see which factors are counted into the damage calculation of e.g. Shiv. Are there any at all?
The NodeViewer and the Formula's thread in the Game Mechanics subforum will show you how to calculate the damage for any ability.
The damage from Shiv and other Scatter/Vibro tech attacks is the sum of a base amount governed by the Rank of the ability, and a bonus proportional to your Tech Bonus Damage.
In particular, the min/max damage values shown in the tooltip of a scattergun or vibroknife are never used in calculating the damage of associated abilities. In effect, the tooltip damage value is window-dressing. But the damage value is directly correlated to the Tech Power bonus of the weapon, which contributes to your tech bonus damage, so the weapon quality does still matter in a statistical sense. But your Shiv damage with a Level 50 main-hand and a Level 1 knife will be the same as your Shiv damage with a Level 1 main-hand and a Level 50 knife, since your Tech Bonus Damage will be the same in either case.
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - Storm - 01-07-2012 12:58 AM
That clears up a lot. Many thanks!
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - remote - 01-08-2012 07:21 AM
Regarding the Scrapper rotation, do you guys think the following would pull more dps?
Single Target DPS
Priority List
Cool Head
Pugnacity
Vital Shot
Shoot First (Flechette Round)
Back Blast (Flechette Round)
Blaster Whip
Sucker Punch
Flurry of Bolts
RE: Scoundrel/Operative DPS Compendium - Sol - 01-08-2012 06:32 PM
Hey remote, thanks for your input firstly, however if you could explain your reasoning for your choice in rotation it would go a long way towards assessing it.
The reason I state this is because I can't see why you would ever place Vital Strike above any ability other than laceration, as it does negligible damage and is only required so that you can have flying fists re-apply upper hand. Also, by placing flurry of bolts at the end of your rotation is going to push you into lower energy regeneration, as you simply will not able to keep everything on CD all the time with sustained DPS.
As discussed in this post, you will see that for sustained dps flurry of bolts if prioritised extremely high when energy is below 70, so that you are always in the top tier of regen.